Errr, because HKR are trying to exploit a loop-hole to get them around the 'quota' rules. When Dobson re-registers then the RFL will have no-choice but to add any payments made to Dobson on the cap to stay within it's spirit surely! Now, if they have just paid or are paying Dobson his normal basic, then the chances are if they had made room for Mason then they will remain under the cap value.

However, do you think the RFL should allow players to be effectively leave the employment of a member club (even if injured... in fact more so if injured) as a simple way to get around the quota rules. I am thinking the RFL will indeed not allow Dobson to re-register if HKR play Mason this weekend. If I were HRK I would now not play Mason, apologise to the RFL board for breaking the spirit of the rules, ask to be allowed to re-register Dobson with immediate effect and not play Mason until such time he has the required paperwork. I would however allow HKR to at least pay Mason (now he is here) as long as it does not take them over the cap.

I am a little surprised by your take on this!

The drama is we can de-register Kylie or Delaney for a month or so and borrow Dobson!

Edit - Just realised Dobson is injured too, thus the whole situation. Sorry!! It's been a VERY rough day.

I'm limiting my comments to the salary cap aspect. It's 'live', all contracts are lodged with the RFL, if there is room for Dobson to return later in the season, if the RFL sanction his return, then that is what I expect to happen.

Do you really want to hear my views on the quota regulations as they have been applied to Willie Mason.

I don't see the big fuss

As far as I read it's nothing to do with the salary cap but purely getting around Mason not receiving his Tongan passport yet?, they de-register an injured quota player (Dobson) so Mason can take his quota spot using his australian passport until he gets his Tongan one then Dobson can retake his quota spot.

HKR should have factored both Mason & Dobsons wage into their salary cap budget before the season started and
problems with Dobsons injury or Masons passport were even considered.

I would like to see the reaction if we had done something similar to get Huaraki playing.

No biggie for mine

Ditto. maybe a slight tweaking of the "spirit of the cap" guff but hey-ho.

Aye. But in the rules it says a de-registered player cannot be re-registered in the same season, this is where the confusion is for me.

The drama I alluded to, which was fully explained by IA, is any potential payment to Dobson in return for him agreeing to be deregistered and not thereafter sign for another team.

I very much doubt Dobson will have forgone his contract salary. I am sure he will still be paid that whilst deregistered. I am sure that will count on the cap.

HKR will have, I am guessing, had to make an additional payment over and above his salary, in return for him agreeing not to move elsewhere, whilst deregistered. It is that additional payment, a payment not due under his contract, I was wondering about. There's no drama, we were discussing theoreticals. Is that OK?

Agree, Dobson must be getting his wages paid and/or some sort of payment for going ahead with this in the first place. That just has to count on the salary cap. Unless this is a classic salary cap loop hole.

When JP got injured back in Aug 2010(?) was there anything to stop Leeds from de-registering JP, signing a prop on a short term 3 month contract, pay JP his wages in the mean time - not on playing staff but as a club shop assistant , then resign JP before the season kicks off again.

I'm not sure how the "injured reserve" process works in the NFL but do we need something similar here if the salary cap of the club involved has sufficient slack to permit it?

I doubt the salary cap will be an issue here, but the re-registration under quota rules might be. Surely this is just the sort of swizz the "except with the permission of the board" clause will have been written to cover?

If Mason's Tongan passport approval is "days away" as Rovers said, this seems, on the face of it, a rather silly risk. I could be wrong though. Obviously.

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So many ASS-umptions in one post.
Well done.

Maybe Dobson or Mason will play for Radlinski wages...

If Mason has entered the country on an Australian passport and then, when he gets a Tongan passport, wants the right to work in the UK as a Tongan (to avoid the Salary cap), won't he have to leave the country and re-apply for the right to work in the UK? And then wait for approval to re-enter? If so then HKR risk not having Mason again for an extended period wil the UKBA sorts out the paperwork.

What a tangled web...but to be honest who REALLY cares ? The lacklustre RL will not enforce their own rules so why bother wasting so much time on discussing it.