Not when we missed out on the likes of Ryan Hoffman, Melbourne's standout player when they played us in the WCC, was available ....

Webb for me has lost alot of pace. Summed up for me in the hull game when he got injured. Few years ago that would have been a try. Also on kick return he seems to shy away from collision. I remember long time ago he seemed a stronger faster player.
My big worry is peacock is head and shoulders above other forwards we have and he won't be around for too much longer

I'm more disappointed that we missed out on Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook. I can't imagine that he went to Saints for much more than Cross came to Leeds, and when you consider that our coach came from Quins, maybe that says more about us/him than Cross?

We are lacking in the front row at the moment and although we have Leuluai, Peacock and Bailey missing there is a gaping hole behind them, but the style of rugby we are playing is almost papering over this particular crack...

Cross is a typical Leeds overseas signing of old. He has not really impressed at all. And after his late hit do we think we might be another prop down next week?

I support Leeds. Ouzo told me so. HTH.

Agree would like to have seen LMS and if I am honest it's a interesting point raised regarding mac I hadn't considered.

Macdermott in post interview said we "had a bit more biff and bash about us" must have missed that I thought we were lacking in biff and bash

We may have had more biff and bash about us than the week before, but it was hopeless. Biff and Bash doesn't matter if you are trying to throw the ball around without actually using the biff and bash first........

Nice to see that the coach recognises that we are not doing the basics very well. I'd say we are not doing them at all. I'd love to know what the players are doing through the week because we don't seem to be improving on a weekend.

So you weren't at the HJ either then ?

Fortunately, no improvement is required for next week.

Just what's he been doing all pre-season then ? Surely that's the time to sort out if your team can do the 'basics' very well or not.

And if they cant, which the first four showing of the season tend to suggest that they can't, why-the-hell change to team's game plan to something that requires immpecable basic skills ?

I wouldn't be so sure, remembering how easily Salford turned us over at home last Easter ?

I don't even think we had more biff and bash. Good defencive effort in first 10 mins but that's it. I seem to recall a interview from one of the players saying they are doing alot more work with the ball in hand? Doesn't show on a weekend

The Harlem Globetrotters would be struggling to play with the ball in the way we seem to want to at the moment. It's no good scoring one or two tries per game of sensational plays, if we concede three or four off them when the ball goes to ground.

Check out the handling errors and missed tackle stats from tonight, if you have the stomach for it that is. It's not rocket science to play to your strengths and frankly at the moment we are doing anything but...