The youngest Leeds' players on SL debut have been:

Chev Walker (16.85)
Kevin Sinfield (16.95)
Kallum Watkins (17.12)
Garreth Carvell (17.36)
Terry Newton (17.47) - Probably would have been sooner bar the wrangle over his registration
Nick Scruton (17.75)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (17.7icon_cool.gif

Most of those turned into pretty decent SL players. Jones-Bishop didn't make his debut until he was closer to 20 than 19 and has been forced to wait until he's 22 to get a real 1st grade opportunity, assuming he gets a run in the side. Leeds should count themselves pretty fortunate if they eventually get to benefit from his patient waiting in the wings and whose to know if the change of coach at Leeds hasn't happened just in time for this particular player.

How did Brouhgton play yesterday? Genuine question as I only got into the ground 15 mins fore the end of their match and didn't notice him.

If Broughton is really as good as a few have our fans have said he is, or started saying he is after he left, it's a shame he didn't show the patience BJB has done rather than scaling the heights and accepted Salford's contract offer ahead of the other top clubs queuing up or him.

Broughton plays on the wing for Salford. One of the most pointless gigs in SL.

Still has all the same potential he had while at Leeds but as long as the better clubs continue to prefer average antipodeans he'll struggle to get the opportunity to realise it fully.

Peacock made his dayboo at 23 too. Innit.

Good story if a little tall - a bit like Peacock himself.

Did he not? My bad.

So how did he do then?

Would you have him ahead of Smith, Hall, BJB and, for that matter, Watkins, none of whom are Antipodeans?

As a winger.....I would !

Hardaker at FB;

Broughton, BJB, Watkins and Hall as the threequarters

(Smith on the bench)

....now that's a potent, very catergorically non-Antipodean, young, formidable combination.

I wouldn't. Average at best

Ahem ! ....In the Salford team maybe....but with the Rhinos ?? Still believe he has the potential to be good enough as an England regular / NRL reserve.

As well as he could be expected to do in a side coached and playing (on that evidence) so poorly.



Relevance? You can only make a judgement on the circumstances as pertained to then in mid 2009 not now. Hall had one wing tied down - but you are customarily allowed two in the side.

Broughton and Donald were un-contracted for 2010. Smith was off to play rugby union in 2010. Broughton had established a good understanding with Watkins at reserve grade level and from what I'd seen of them both (and Jones-Bishop) they were ones to keep and progress.

My point at the time was one of Broughton/Watkins/Jones-Bishop should be allowed a crack on the wing in place of the assumed to be departing Donald.

Donald at the time was being described by some (well one person at least) as playing abysmal. Further down the track Jones-Bishop was described as not having the skill set required to play on the wing (well again that was one person's view at least.)

Meanwhile patience wasn't what Broughton required at Leeds rather it was an offer of a contract for 2010. That didn't materialise or at least not one that anyone has yet managed to produce a link to so understandably he found himself a new club, scored some outstanding winger's tries from long and short distances, secured a longer term deal and recognition from the current England coach who selected him in his train-on squad, something else he has in common with Jones-Bishop. Leeds at this point had a decidedly dis-interested average antipodean going through the motions when fit or when not fit replaced by sundry have-a-go stop gap wingers in Clarkson, Coady and Bush before Smith unexpectedly returned to save Leeds from any further embarrassment.

Amen to that !

Quote: tad rhino "I wouldn't. Average at best'" Fair play, we are all entitled to an opinion. Broughton remains a full-time SL player whereas others such as here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=454457 remain part-time having found a level away from the big league, even though some sought to defend his inadequate performances last season.

Quote: tad rhino "I wouldn't. Average at best'" Fair play, we are all entitled to an opinion. Broughton remains a full-time SL player whereas others such as here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=454457 remain part-time having found a level away from the big league, even though some sought to defend his inadequate performances last season.

I'd go with McShane in the next game off the bench. He's a great threat in attack, and i don't see the issue in his defence? He can smash guy saround the field and works hard. The guys a talent and so is Liam Hood but atm i'd go with Mcshane over Hood. And when Buderus finishes that would leave us with 2 outshanding hookers which will be a massive threat to teams

Im not sure if you are asking the right question to be honest. Leeds in 2009 when Broughton wasnt offered the necessary contract had Hall, BJB, Coady, Watkins and Bush all able to play winger and had the option of contracting Scott Donald and Broughton for 2010.

Now it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that considering we already had BJB and Watkins contracted for not only 2010 but 2011 and 2012 that one or both of those two had already been earmarked for a starting wing spot in 2011 and Broughton was waiting for a place which was simply never going to open up.

Signing Broughton in 2009 would likely have meant that either he, BJB or Watkins would be getting limited game time now, 2 years later with likely a big impact on the SC as Broughton would need to be on a wage commensurate with a first team player.

The question wasnt Broughton or Donald(he was simply a stop gap) it was Broughton or BJB or Watkins.

Personally i cant see much to complain about. Smith, Bjb, Hall, Watkins are all quality back 5 players, bar Hall (who is an out and out winger) the other three offer us great versitility, all came through our youth system and IMO, will all be remembered at the end of their careers as better players than Broughton.