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| Quote: GCM1980 "It probably means more to them than it does us these days. Much like it meant more to us when we were aspiring to their success for years. It was massive for me beating them in those days, because that was as good as it got for us. When the big one came in 2004 though it was particularly sweet.
These days it doesn't excite me any more than any other match. Now we've tasted real success, it means more to beat the teams around us. When Bradford become challengers again, it'll mean something.'"
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Beating Bradford means no more than beating any other team.
Why?
Because they've rarely ever been Leeds fiercest rivals.
Nor are they the old enemy - historically, the rivalry between Leeds/Wakefield, Leeds/Castleford and Leeds/Hunslet has been far more significant.
It's not a proper local derby fixture. It's the brainchild of Super League marketing and hype, it's significance apportioned and reinforced by Sky Sports, Eddie & Stevo, and a couple of Super League era CEO's who didn't get along personally and preferred to waste time meeting up frequently in court in order to boost their own ego's.
It has no historical significance like other bona fide derby fixtures do, eg, Wigan V Saints, Hull V Hull KR.
The fixture only works and pulls in the big attendances under two conditions...
1) Bradford have to be dominant and successful.
2) Leeds are not but desperate to be so.
Anyone who considers Leeds V Bradford as a derby game between two fiercest of rivals are clearly those who have been weaned on Super League. They possess little to no knowledge or historical perspective.
No 'Loiner' worth his or her salt would regard Leeds & Bradford as the most important fixtures on the calendar. That's the ted domain of the archetypal 'Rhinos' fan and young children who know no better.
HTH'"
Probably the best / most knowledgeable post I've ever read on this forum! |
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Beating Bradford means no more than beating any other team.
Why?
Because they've rarely ever been Leeds fiercest rivals.
Nor are they the old enemy - historically, the rivalry between Leeds/Wakefield, Leeds/Castleford and Leeds/Hunslet has been far more significant.
It's not a proper local derby fixture. It's the brainchild of Super League marketing and hype, it's significance apportioned and reinforced by Sky Sports, Eddie & Stevo, and a couple of Super League era CEO's who didn't get along personally and preferred to waste time meeting up frequently in court in order to boost their own ego's.
It has no historical significance like other bona fide derby fixtures do, eg, Wigan V Saints, Hull V Hull KR.
The fixture only works and pulls in the big attendances under two conditions...
1) Bradford have to be dominant and successful.
2) Leeds are not but desperate to be so.
Anyone who considers Leeds V Bradford as a derby game between two fiercest of rivals are clearly those who have been weaned on Super League. They possess little to no knowledge or historical perspective.
No 'Loiner' worth his or her salt would regard Leeds & Bradford as the most important fixtures on the calendar. That's the ted domain of the archetypal 'Rhinos' fan and young children who know no better.
HTH'"
I could come up with some witty return like ‘ I’m so glad to be a child of super league instead of the cynical oldies’.
But for the good of the game, please print the quote above Christopher Irvine. |
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Beating Bradford gives me a little ammunition to rib a couple of Bulls fans at work with but apart from that just another 2 points.
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Not a lot
means more to beat St Helens
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Not as much as it used to do now that everyone does it...
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Not as much as it used to do now that everyone does it...'"
Simple but brilliant.
Sadly, that is a cracking answer 'cos of late its been all too true! |
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It brings a warm inner glow knowing that all is well in the World, and that the Great Unwashed are having to suck it up for another week!
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It lets me give my mates some stick for a few days ( or visa versa) but that's about it
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Beating Bradford means no more than beating any other team.
Why?
Because they've rarely ever been Leeds fiercest rivals.
Nor are they the old enemy - historically, the rivalry between Leeds/Wakefield, Leeds/Castleford and Leeds/Hunslet has been far more significant.
It's not a proper local derby fixture. It's the brainchild of Super League marketing and hype, it's significance apportioned and reinforced by Sky Sports, Eddie & Stevo, and a couple of Super League era CEO's who didn't get along personally and preferred to waste time meeting up frequently in court in order to boost their own ego's.
It has no historical significance like other bona fide derby fixtures do, eg, Wigan V Saints, Hull V Hull KR.
The fixture only works and pulls in the big attendances under two conditions...
1) Bradford have to be dominant and successful.
2) Leeds are not but desperate to be so.
Anyone who considers Leeds V Bradford as a derby game between two fiercest of rivals are clearly those who have been weaned on Super League. They possess little to no knowledge or historical perspective.
No 'Loiner' worth his or her salt would regard Leeds & Bradford as the most important fixtures on the calendar. That's the ted domain of the archetypal 'Rhinos' fan and young children who know no better.
HTH'"
Spot On Keith  |
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It's also worth considering that when it comes to bragging rights, there are loads more Bradfordians making the short hop to civilisation to work in Leeds each day, than there are tourtured Loiner souls who have to go west to that Borg-damaged car park for the Dales ....
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Many thanks for all your help. Best responses will hopefully go into the Millennium Magic programme.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Beating Bradford means no more than beating any other team.
Why?
Because they've rarely ever been Leeds fiercest rivals.
Nor are they the old enemy - historically, the rivalry between Leeds/Wakefield, Leeds/Castleford and Leeds/Hunslet has been far more significant.
It's not a proper local derby fixture. It's the brainchild of Super League marketing and hype, it's significance apportioned and reinforced by Sky Sports, Eddie & Stevo, and a couple of Super League era CEO's who didn't get along personally and preferred to waste time meeting up frequently in court in order to boost their own ego's.
It has no historical significance like other bona fide derby fixtures do, eg, Wigan V Saints, Hull V Hull KR.
The fixture only works and pulls in the big attendances under two conditions...
1) Bradford have to be dominant and successful.
2) Leeds are not but desperate to be so.
Anyone who considers Leeds V Bradford as a derby game between two fiercest of rivals are clearly those who have been weaned on Super League. They possess little to no knowledge or historical perspective.
No 'Loiner' worth his or her salt would regard Leeds & Bradford as the most important fixtures on the calendar. That's the ted domain of the archetypal 'Rhinos' fan and young children who know no better.
HTH'"
Spot on.
The days in which we all used to look forward to the Bradford fixture was because Bradford happened to be "the team to beat", it was never "just because it was Bradford". |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Spot on.
The days in which we all used to look forward to the Bradford fixture was because Bradford happened to be "the team to beat", it was never "just because it was Bradford".'"
Ohh I don't know. I remember always wanting to beat the "damn boring Bradford Northern" (more than any other at the time) ...who always seemed to punish us with their heavy steamroller of a pack.
The Leeds team's superior flair never seemed quite enough to wallop them back.  |
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