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tomkins wont be the full back against the aussies if widdup is fit

all the top teams have players that can produce moments of magic like tomkins can for wigan but deacon has been the guy pulling all their strings this season without getting the plaudits
if deacon is fit for the next game our chances are a lot less than if he's missing

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Quote: southyorksdave "tomkins wont be the full back against the aussies if widdup is fit

all the top teams have players that can produce moments of magic like tomkins can for wigan but deacon has been the guy pulling all their strings this season without getting the plaudits
if deacon is fit for the next game our chances are a lot less than if he's missing'"


I actually wouldnt disagree with anything you just wrote there.
Sam has done a fine job at FB for us in the absence of Phelps and Amos.
Dont see him playing in that position next season though.
'Specially if Tommy L moves to hooker.

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Tomkins isn't big enough to play Full-back. He as shown more than once he will get trampled by the bigger players near the line. Outstanding talent, but just not big or strong enough to play internationally at full back anyway.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos " Tomkins isn't big enough to play Full-back. He as shown more than once he will get trampled by the bigger players near the line. Outstanding talent, but just not big or strong enough to play internationally at full back anyway.'"

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Quote: rhinoms "


ok, I have worded that wrong. Brent Webb has more bulk than Tomkins. IMO, Tomkins is too small physically to play full back. Gets brushed off too easily near the line.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "IMO, Tomkins is too small physically to play full back. Gets brushed off too easily near the line.'"


He's not alone in that regard as it's a fate suffered by almost every other full back in SL also (including the three available to Leeds) with the only possible exception to the rule being .... dear lord no .... Wellens.

Damn Mathers' out of character Wembley performance.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "ok, I have worded that wrong. Brent Webb has more bulk than Tomkins. IMO, Tomkins is too small physically to play full back. Gets brushed off too easily near the line.'"

I think it's more a case of technique and ability in that position mate rather than size!

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Quote: rhinoms "I think it's more a case of technique and ability in that position mate rather than size!'"


I'm not so sure tbh. I can't recall ever seeing Webb bounce of a player on the line like Tomkins did against donald, or against Eastwood. I don't think he has enough bulk at the moment, which also means he is pretty light, so will always lose the collision in situations like that.

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Quote: dads58 "Now be perfectly truthful, have you ever actually watched a game of Rugby League. You may hate this kid (for obvious reasons) but to dismiss him as you have is nothing short of idiotic. Credit where its due, I dont thinkj he is in the McGuire league yet but he WILL get there.'"


Only had the pleasure of watching RL the last 33 years whilst living in Leeds, Tauranga and Townsville....not so easy in my present location I concede but for Sky. The A51 aint that great believe me.
Suggest you read ALL my posts this thread. As for hating....who said that ? Any player that provokes strong reaction from the opposition supporters is a player you should know is to be feared and respected. Hate is just a euphemism for fear.
......but he aint a FB.

For me it should have been Amos FB, Tomkins SO and Deacon SH for a certain GF winning team.....but what do I know ?
i think Leeds' chances are certainly increased if you maintain the same FB/SO/SH line up you put out against HKR.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Only had the pleasure of watching RL the last 33 years whilst living in Leeds, Tauranga and Townsville....not so easy in my present location I concede but for Sky. The A51 aint that great believe me.
Suggest you read ALL my posts this thread. As for hating....who said that ? Any player that provokes strong reaction from the opposition supporters is a player you should know is to be feared and respected. Hate is just a euphemism for fear.
......but he aint a FB.

For me it should have been Amos FB, Tomkins SO and Deacon SH for a certain GF winning team.....but what do I know ?
i think Leeds' chances are certainly increased if you maintain the same FB/SO/SH line up you put out against HKR.'"


Wrexham aint that far away though, is it?
Cru...Cru...Crusaders!
Ok............Perhaps not. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "Tomkins (S) is an annoying little shizer but without doubt has a bucket load of talent and has one of the best sidesteps I think I’ve seen.

Defensively he’s weak and needs to improve that side of his game greatly.

A full back he aint though, the kid’s a stand-off through and through.


Still has a punchable face.'"


Well according to the idiot commentators on sky they think hes a star at FB even as good as Darren Lockyear lmao. Not good enough to lace Lockyears boots

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Quote: tvoc "He's not alone in that regard as it's a fate suffered by almost every other full back in SL also (including the three available to Leeds) with the only possible exception to the rule being .... dear lord no .... Wellens.

Damn Mathers' out of character Wembley performance.'"


Ref Wellens..... I DID say "modicum" of attacking ability...meaning pace.

Mathers' performance at Wembley was the epitome of the best FB play for me....as you state quite correctly damn him.

I have high hopes for Jones - Bishop based only on the edited highlights I confess. He does appear to be blessed with the right attributes of reasonable bulk, technique and attacking pace/kick returns.

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Quote: southyorksdave "tomkins wont be the full back against the aussies if widdup is fit

all the top teams have players that can produce moments of magic like tomkins can for wigan but deacon has been the guy pulling all their strings this season without getting the plaudits
if deacon is fit for the next game our chances are a lot less than if he's missing'"


Deacons barely played this year, especially starting. He's usually come off the bench apart from the last 7 or 8 games when Sam moved to fb, which has coincided with most of our losses.

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Quote: Leyland Warrior "Wrexham aint that far away though, is it?
Cru...Cru...Crusaders!
Ok............Perhaps not.
You're right....but only been the once back in January ...and then only to support the away team.

That was the time I thought Leeds had actually signed a brilliant right centre capable of putting the man outside him on a clear run to the line ( McGuire's try ).....instead of the second rower or even prop who is quite evidently playing out of position.

Despite the appeal of watching a top class scum half there I still prefer to get across to Leeds whenever I can .... My relative now out on long term basis still holds that greater appeal.

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