And yes Bluey couldnt have forseen such a poor performance all round from the majority of the 17 selected I do agree. Rarely however do we see the players taking the blame for this which once again is probably wrong but seems it is they way it is.

I cant disagree with a lot of what you say but I do believe Bluey has often winged it with the "squad togetherness" line seemingly not having a plan B if it goes tits up....... sooner or later it was going to catch up with us..........it did yesterday!

Absolutle shambles on all accounts.

Firstly that a player is getting selected who doesn't even feel fit enough himself.

and then allowing the players to select the team.

If ali wasn't fully fit he shouldnt have been selected in the first place.

But he was so McClennan should have overuled.

He's on his way anyhow, and quite possibly earlier than anticipated. I believe we are both in agreement over the unsuitability and coaching record of his likely replacement-in-waiting, yes?

A good motivator for sure and certainly motivated a hungry team which was at its best to succeed..............as I believe TS would have done.

The difference being I think TS would have moved a number of players along over the period Bluey has been here.

Yes.

I think yer spot on there mate as he showed with Barrie Mc and Connolly.

So are you expecting Bluey to go at the end of the year and Brian Mc to take over?

I think it's entirely possible that McClennan will make his exit earlier than anticipated, assuming some of the rumours I've heard recently are true. One year contract extensions don't mean a great deal as Scott Donald will testify. I don't even want to consider Brian (7th, 9th, 9th, 11th, 12th) McDermott as his likely replacement.

Finally someone on the same wavelength. I thought iwas the only one who thought he wouldn't be up to it.

General consensus on here seemed to be good choice.

If fit Ali should have played but he is a risk now. However even had he played it would not have made enough the difference. Too many players had an off day. Nothing went right even the Wires crowd made more noise. The Leeds fans were subdued even before the game. No "Marching on Together" etc

We had a game plan?

To be fair to Brian Mc he was highly rated here before he left for Quinns mate and i see yer point re-SL finishes but he's had very little to work with imo.

What he's had he's taken backwards, in terms of SL finishing positions.

That would be the concern although it's not forced to be replicated at a club able to spend close to the cap which I imagine is a luxury he's not enjoyed in the big smoke. Either way Leeds' next coach will have a tougher job on his hands than the previous two.

I'm inclined to agree mate they will have the added pressure of following 2 championship winning coaches and that's before they have to see the club through it's "transitional" phase.