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| Quote: Fax4Life "Yes we saw it we were above the fans (clowns) from both clubs or at least people wearing the clubs colours, it was football proper style crowd trouble and a proper fight, not nice and I have never seen anything like this in 30 years of going to CC Finals.
From a neutral fans view it was some Warrington fans goading some Leeds fans and after much provocation they reacted wrongly and it kicked off.
Sad, got to say Warrington fans have an over aggressive nature with us lot from Yorkshire singing stuff like Leeds scum and Yorkshire scum, football not RL.
It was a minority though but again never really had anything like this in all the years.'"
jeffers#13 has quoted my original post on this topic.
The account from Fax4Life above has no resemblence to the actual events of yesterday afternoon whatsoever ( at least with the incident they are trying to describe )
I cannot pass a comment on any other incident bar the one in block 109. I do not doubt for 1 minute that there were incidents where the fault lies entirely with Warrington fans and that Leeds fans may have had to put up with the same abuse as we had to. Hopefully their day was not spoiled.
As a previous poster claims the truth will lie between the accounts of Leeds fans and the Warrington fans. This is not true.
I do not condone the actions of the Warrington fans who finally retaliated after over 70 minutes of abuse, beer showers and offers of a fight outside to prove who was the bigger man. However the conduct of the group of I would guess 30
Leeds " supporters" was a disgrace. There were 2 or 3 ringleaders but in my opinion the intent of the whole group was to cause as much trouble as possible.
I just wanted to put a version of the actual events that took place forward from someone who was sat almost right in the middle of it
So once again, thanks to this group for the spoiling of what should have been a great afternoon. Its a shame that such a small minority caused distress for a large number of people.
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| Quote: bulldog13 "I've said this before but until the authorities ban sale of alcohol during the games this will continue to happen and, god forbid, scenes only previously seen with soccer.
RL C.Cup final - speccies typically leave 7am and start on the beer; Grand Final even worse - speccies get to drink all day and by 6pm ko are well and truly bladdered!
Next - continue to be served and recipe for aggression.....
I have seen this at recent GF games with Saints and Leeds and also at Wembley with Saints and Hull fans (yes - I am Saints fan). I'm not picking on any named team either, all clubs have their idiots especially when beer is freely available - Saints more than many!
Sad day when I say that alcohol shouldn't be sold at matches but I really fear for the day when it all kicks off and, for once, we as RL sport finally appears on the BBC News and front pages in the press for all the wrong reasons.'"
Couldn't agree more mate
I love attending these finals both as a Leeds fan and as a neutral but each time I'm never fully relaxed until I see who is sitting around us,hoping we don't get the kind of drunken idiots that were involved in the incident described in this thread and other similar ones that seem to get reported on at every final,especially the Grand Final,like when you say these lads who cannot handle their beer have been at it all day.
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| When it's football, the YEP are never shy at printing mughsots of the scummers who have been rucking. I'd like them to do the same here. I bet a lot of us would recognise some of them. I've certainly been to matches where the conduct of some Leeds fans has made me ashamed.
I'm not saying other clubs are angels, but I can only comment on what I see on a regular basis.
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the fight in block 109 was started by your lot but our so called "fans" that took the bait are honestly just as bad. i would say though that the group of leeds fans at the bottom were givving gestures and signs aat all the wire fans in our end not a very smart move, they then started throwing beers at different warrington fans one hit a young girl in the face so the dad got up angrily and pushed the leeds fan down the stairs he was then chased up the stairs and more wire fans jumped up to have a fight and just people that were next to the fight had to as the leeds fans were that smashed they just hit anyone who was near them
www.flickr.com/photos/garyskent/ ... 7908/show/
there is a pic of what happened it is a bit through the slide show just go through it at the bottom
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the fight in block 109 was started by your lot but our so called "fans" that took the bait are honestly just as bad. i would say though that the group of leeds fans at the bottom were givving gestures and signs aat all the wire fans in our end not a very smart move, they then started throwing beers at different warrington fans one hit a young girl in the face so the dad got up angrily and pushed the leeds fan down the stairs he was then chased up the stairs and more wire fans jumped up to have a fight and just people that were next to the fight had to as the leeds fans were that smashed they just hit anyone who was near them
www.flickr.com/photos/garyskent/ ... 7908/show/
there is a pic of what happened it is a bit through the slide show just go through it at the bottom
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| Quote: rawzy! "the fight in block 109 was started by your lot but our so called "fans" that took the bait are honestly just as bad. i would say though that the group of leeds fans at the bottom were givving gestures and nice person signs aat all the wire fans in our end not a very smart move, they then started throwing beers at different warrington fans one hit a young girl in the face so the dad got up angrily and pushed the leeds fan down the stairs he was then chased up the stairs and more wire fans jumped up to have a fight and just people that were next to the fight had to as the leeds fans were that smashed they just hit anyone who was near them
Great pictures i would like to see the picture the guy in the crowd is taking whos stood above the morons fighting .
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| Its the booze IMO. As has been stated on here in previous forums people get tanked up before big finals and then their mouths run away with themselves. Some of the neutral fans do my head in. I sat next to some Hull fans who just watched the game and clapped both teams. How it should be. Then there were some muppets a few rows back just chanting 'Leeds scum' all the time. A Leeds fan had a word then a steward got involved. Pathetic.
Banning booze in the ground would not help. I saw a large number of fans drunk at Watford Gap services at 10 AM.
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| Quote: WILL OLD "
Banning booze in the ground would not help. I saw a large number of fans drunk at Watford Gap services at 10 AM.'"
There were a few guys necking beers in the queue for the coaches at 7.00 in the morning. Thankfully they weren't allowed to drink on the coaches otherwise they'd be in a right state.
I enjoy a few beers on a matchday but I don't see any need to get so smashed?
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| Quote: WILL OLD "Its the booze IMO. As has been stated on here in previous forums people get tanked up before big finals and then their mouths run away with themselves. Some of the neutral fans do my head in. I sat next to some Hull fans who just watched the game and clapped both teams. How it should be. Then there were some muppets a few rows back just chanting 'Leeds scum' all the time. A Leeds fan had a word then a steward got involved. Pathetic.
Banning booze in the ground would not help. I saw a large number of fans drunk at Watford Gap services at 10 AM.'"
What about drunks not being allowed entry into the stadium?
After all Airlines have the power to refuse drunken passengers onto a plane so why not sports grounds (it may even say something about it in the ground regulations on the tickets?)
If you end up being seated anywhere near these sorts of morans it just ruins your enjoyment of the game
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "What about drunks not being allowed entry into the stadium?
After all Airlines have the power to refuse drunken passengers onto a plane so why not sports grounds (it may even say something about it in the ground regulations on the tickets?)
If you end up being seated anywhere near these sorts of morans it just ruins your enjoyment of the game'"
Yep i'd go along with this.
Unfortunately we won't get these stadiums to stop selling beer because it rakes in so much £££ for them especially when they are way over-priced so an admission policy is the only way imo.
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| Quote: cheekydiddles "What about drunks not being allowed entry into the stadium?
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They can do that already - but don't.
Its a simple formula - empty the pockets of your punters with massively over-priced and often poor quality alcohol (how many pubs do you know that shut down for two weeks in between sessions and still hold a pretence of knowing how to keep beer), and let the stewards deal (sometimes) with the handful who abuse the privilege.
You take the money every time and sod the inconvenience to anyone else, after all, the stadium still sold out didn't it ?
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| Here is what I have posted on the Warrington forum. Please note I have not used the word fan to describe anyone who was part of the trouble.
This incident was in the next bock to us along the same row. There were two guys inparticular wearing light blue and white striped shirts who had been goading people around them most of the game. Clearly under the influence of beer. A number of times people ad asked them to calm down and just enjoy the day. Their behaviour had been reported to the stewards a number of times too. Sadly when it all kicked off big time it was because a man in a Warrington away shirt squared up to one of the men and pushed him down stairs causing others to react with fists.
True fans around this incident did the right thing IMO and let them get on with it but just roundly booed them till the stewards escourted everyone involved out of the ground.
Not nice to see and very upsetting for the children who were near to the incident and had to witness it, like my daughter who was in tears for 5 minutes. She thought I was telling her off when I told her not to watch the fight but watch the game instead. Thanks for that you idiots.
Put a bit of a tar on a fantastic day. Someone has posted a video of the end of the incident on a popular video viewing sight.
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| Quote: Richie Ramrod "It was me, loved it, got some real quality right hands in.'"
Hope your only joking but if not you should be truely ashamed of yourself
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| Asked a few Leeds fans what happened because I was at the opposite end so couldn't really see who was fighting. They told me it wasn't the Rhinos fans it was actually Leeds Utd fans, instead of going to Watford for the football they decided to go down to Wembley buy tickets off touts and got in the Warrington end. If you look at the pictures theres not actually that many wearing Rhinos shirts. I don't know how it started or who was involved but I don't think either sides are innocent here, both were as bad as each other.
Let's hope it's stopped before it turns into football crowds.
On a personal note though I did find some Warrington fans very aggressive on my way back to the coach. Wanting fights was glad to get back to my coach away from them.
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| Quote: leeds_warrior "Asked a few Leeds fans what happened because I was at the opposite end so couldn't really see who was fighting. They told me it wasn't the Rhinos fans it was actually Leeds Utd fans, instead of going to Watford for the football they decided to go down to Wembley buy tickets off touts and got in the Warrington end. If you look at the pictures theres not actually that many wearing Rhinos shirts. I don't know how it started or who was involved but I don't think either sides are innocent here, both were as bad as each other.
Let's hope it's stopped before it turns into football crowds.
On a personal note though I did find some Warrington fans very aggressive on my way back to the coach. Wanting fights was glad to get back to my coach away from them.'"
You can't describe any of them as "fans" and this "it was LUFC" fans not Rhinos ones smacks of the Hull lot blaming City fans.
They are NOT FANS they are sh#8houses of the highest quality.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Spot on.
But for some reason it's always the other sides fault.
Then it's segregation. Strange I was at Bradford in 1960 in a crowd of 87,000 for Wigan v Wakefield with no segregation and there was no trouble.
Real RL supporters need to point out the troublemakers, even if they are friends.'"
Agreed - we once had a bog brush thrown at us by some travelling supporters at Headingley - these trouble makers need banning by the RFL.
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