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| Quote: speccyrhino "
Having said that i do think Buderus once hindered my progress towards the bar.'"
He's always in my way, everywhere I go, always there.
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| Quote: Era of the Biff "Some interesting comments from him here
Was it this bit
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| Quote: tvoc "Was it this bit
At least we now know why Kirke's in the squad. He's aiding McShane's development.....
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I can see what McShane said in the article provided, unfortunately I can't see what he didn't say in reference to Buderus or Diskin.
However he did say
Wouldn't Danny Buderus be classed as a senior player?
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| Quote: Era of the Biff "LOL at those falling over themselves to defend Buderus and their comments that he was brought over to aid McShanes development again.
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Lol at you for thinking you've won an argument based on something that someone didn't say
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "Lol at you for thinking you've won an argument based on something that someone didn't say'"
Laughing harder at you though.
Mcshane mentions the Hull move as being key as he got first team games, something he couldnt get at Leeds because we'd brought over an overpaid, over the hill hooker to block his path to the first team.
There have been number of comments on here that McShane would benefit from Buderus as Buderus would pass on his vast knowledge. All well and good but patently untrue if McShane was training and playing for Hull. He makes no reference to learning anything from Buderus, preferring to highlight first team games as important ot him. First team games that were being denied him at Leeds.
It's becoming tiresome having to explain things to those who do not have the thought capacity to think outside the box. |
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| Quote: Era of the Biff "
It's becoming tiresome having to explain things to those who do not have the thought capacity to think outside the box.'"
It's also pretty tiresome for the rest of us having to listen to your anti-Buderus comments all the time... |
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| Quote: Beastwood "It's also pretty tiresome for the rest of us having to listen to your anti-Buderus comments all the time...'"
You appear to have me confused with someone who gives a F*** about what anyone thinks.
It's a tough ask having to educate pork day in day out. |
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Danny Buderus developed my stifle. It was quite enjoyable.
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| Quote: tvoc "Was it this bit
Was he playing left side, with Senior and Kirke out there too?
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| Quote: Richie "Was he playing left side, with Senior and Kirke out there too?'"
At Harlequins McShane was placed where Burrow usually defends, outside the left second row (Kirke) and left centre (Senior) and inside the left wing position (Smith)
McShane was hopelessly lost for Dorn's opener for the Quins and least said about his 'attempt' (I'm being generous describing it as such) on Tony Clubb for Dorn's second the better.
Obviously also taking into account that he was filling in a position he has recently been unaccustomed to at any level let alone 1st grade. |
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| Quote: tvoc "At Harlequins McShane was placed where Burrow usually defends, outside the left second row (Kirke) and left centre (Senior) and inside the left wing position (Smith)
McShane was hopelessly lost for Dorn's opener for the Quins and least said about his 'attempt' (I'm being generous describing it as such) on Tony Clubb for Dorn's second the better.
Obviously also taking into account that he was filling in a position he has recently been unaccustomed to at any level let alone 1st grade.'"
That at least tells us why he specifically referred to Senior and Kirke then. |
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Quote: Era of the Biff "Laughing harder at you though.
Mcshane mentions the Hull move as being key as he got first team games, something he couldnt get at Leeds because we'd brought over an overpaid, over the hill hooker to block his path to the first team.
There have been number of comments on here that McShane would benefit from Buderus as Buderus would pass on his vast knowledge. All well and good but patently untrue if McShane was training and playing for Hull. He makes no reference to learning anything from Buderus, preferring to highlight first team games as important ot him. First team games that were being denied him at Leeds.
It's becoming tiresome having to explain things to those who do not have the thought capacity to think outside the box.'"
I personally think that the primary reason for bringing in Buderus was that we wanted to play a 2 hooker system, and Buderus was the best person to be able to fill that need. He was and still is a bloody good hooker. Without the direct question being asked of Paul, I'm not sure anyone is in a position to know how much he has learnt from Buderus (or indeed Diskin or Berrigan), and I doubt if
I personally don't think its reasonable to say that Buderus has been responsible for blocking his route to first team football, as he hadn't made his debut when we signed DB, and spent most of the season injured last year after being in the reckoning for the first team at the start of the year.
So this year he has been restricted to 3 appearances at Leeds, with a good few games under his belt at Hull, I'd say he has missed out on maybe 10 games this season. Hardly being held back now is it?
I think the club are in a much better position to know how ready a player is for SL intensity week in week out, and I'm happy that they follow the tried and tested pattern that has developed so many talented British youngsters.
by the way, I'm still waiting for a response to my question as to why you think Buderus weakens us on the pitch?
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Quote: Era of the Biff "Laughing harder at you though.
Mcshane mentions the Hull move as being key as he got first team games, something he couldnt get at Leeds because we'd brought over an overpaid, over the hill hooker to block his path to the first team.
There have been number of comments on here that McShane would benefit from Buderus as Buderus would pass on his vast knowledge. All well and good but patently untrue if McShane was training and playing for Hull. He makes no reference to learning anything from Buderus, preferring to highlight first team games as important ot him. First team games that were being denied him at Leeds.
It's becoming tiresome having to explain things to those who do not have the thought capacity to think outside the box.'"
I personally think that the primary reason for bringing in Buderus was that we wanted to play a 2 hooker system, and Buderus was the best person to be able to fill that need. He was and still is a bloody good hooker. Without the direct question being asked of Paul, I'm not sure anyone is in a position to know how much he has learnt from Buderus (or indeed Diskin or Berrigan), and I doubt if
I personally don't think its reasonable to say that Buderus has been responsible for blocking his route to first team football, as he hadn't made his debut when we signed DB, and spent most of the season injured last year after being in the reckoning for the first team at the start of the year.
So this year he has been restricted to 3 appearances at Leeds, with a good few games under his belt at Hull, I'd say he has missed out on maybe 10 games this season. Hardly being held back now is it?
I think the club are in a much better position to know how ready a player is for SL intensity week in week out, and I'm happy that they follow the tried and tested pattern that has developed so many talented British youngsters.
by the way, I'm still waiting for a response to my question as to why you think Buderus weakens us on the pitch?
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "snip'"
I've already made my feelings known many times. I do not have time nor the inclination to repeat them again.
Feel free to spend your own time looking for them though. |
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