So you know the incident was football related?

You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work it out mate it's like a national disease.
Major footy tournament on t.v in the pubs=loads of pi$$ed up fans/d#*kheads=Plenty of kicking off and people getting hurt.

Damo preach that bollox to someone else mate it was a chicken sh#t scum bag been clever and attacking a bloke from behind after a night in the pub.
Everyone knows right and wrong and focussing frustrations,broken background etc doesn't wash and is an excuse the pc brigade use to try and justify cowardice acts by Scum.

Up front it looks like this. I refuse to comment further on this until more details are release!

Finally lets hope the victim has a speedy recovery and the aggressor gets the right correction facility.

Police are asking anyone who was in The Skyrack on Saturday evening to check their phones/cameras for photos/videos of crowd scenes and let them have them, presumably not restricted to the event either, they'll want to nail a suspect down to being there at a certain time as they are unlikely to admit being on the premises.

My youngest was in there up to just quarter of an hour before it happened so I'm getting her to check the photos she took - incidently she was later punched on the side of the head in Walkabout by a lad (unknown to her) who was starting a fight with someone else - the someone else ducked and she took the punch as she turned around to see what was happening - has got a lovely shiner for her troubles now.

She was also on a train this morning on her way to college when the window on the opposite side of the aisle to her had a brick thrown through it - its not her week this week is it ?

There is no "broken society" to blame, just an increasing number of brain-dead fookwits - I wish I'd taken up that offer of a place as a Magistrate a few years ago, then again maybe I don't, "The Hanging Magistrate" might not sit too well on my CV.

These brain-dead fookwits came about thanks to a broken society. If it was fixed people would feel no need to take their aggression out on others. I used to see someone all the time randomly attack people a lot littler than himself. What allowed someone to commit such an horrific gesture?

A few brain cells that aren't quite there?

How do you explain Adolf Hitler then?

You're hanging your problems on a phrase.

There is nothing wrong with "society" that a little early discipline wouldn't solve, both in the home and in school, if you don't place controls on kids then they will run out of control, if you don't tell them that its wrong to randomly attack smaller kids in the street then they will not work it out for themselves.

I could be a little sod when I was a kid but I knew my boundaries, both in school (where there were very firm boundaries) and at home, and I knew what was coming if I strayed outside those boundaries - remove those and I would have been "a victim of a broken society", its really very simple, its not a "society" that is to blame for that is too random a concept, too easy to blame something intangible - it starts with parents responsibilities and you work forward from there.


PS - WTF is Adolf Hitler doing on your estate ?

By control you mean suppressing kids from experimenting with actions. Its that suppression of actions that can lead to the trouble causers of tomorrow through curiosity.

For example my old man picked me up from his old estate as a kid and he bumped into one of his mates who he went to school with. Turns out that this mates brother killed somebody. Whilst most of us would poke them red spiders as kids this bloke’s brother probably didn’t and went on to kill someone.

Ever heard of the term wouldn’t harm a fly?

Derek Bird was apparently another gentle giant who had a moment of madness.

Whilst I agree with a majority of your statement because it works for most of us. However there’s a tiny fraction who are the sorry people of this country. Society won’t be fixed until we deal with these people in the correct way.



We’re secretly planning to take over the world again

Not quite.

Nobody suppressed me when I was a kid growing up in LS16 in the 1960s, I had far more freedom that you will ever have dreamed of, did things that you would never think of doing, we didn't even have a phone in the house so no-one could keep a track of us even if they'd wanted to, during the school summer holidays we were locked out of the house at 8am (parents went to work) and didn't get back in until they came home so we ran feral in this area

The difference was that I always knew how far I could push things and when to stop because if I didn't then I'd have my dad to face when I got home, those were my boundaries, within those boundaries were things that included stealing fruit from gardens, stealing stuff from building sites, fighting other gangs around here, all good stuff, but no-one ever found out because it wasn't done to look good or to be boasted about because the last thing you wanted was for word to get home - it was like our own little mafia

So we weren't angels and nothing was perfect but there were rules and respect for police, teachers and parents and with that one control in place came more freedom than you will ever know.

The lack of power afforded to teachers means that more and more youngsters are lacking respect for all things, including themselves IMO.

Maths has never been my strong point but I can put 2 and 2 together.