There was a try given to Saints against Salford a couple of weeks ago (Scott Moore I think??) as a "benefit of the doubt" situation that, for me,was the straw that broke the camel's back with regards to video ref decisions. If that try can be given, then quite frankly anything can. Granted, given that the video ref was Ganson I shouldn't have ben too surprised, but from the camera angles given there was no evidence that the ball got anywhere near touching the ground, so surely benefit of the doubt should have been given to the defence? As for the last NSW try yesterday, allowing that was simply farcical!

He was loosing the ball. He had a very loose fingertip grip and the ball was coming free as it hit the ground. It's a 50/50.

Some referees will deem it's suffificent downward pressure, some will deem he doesn't have full control as he grounds it.

What it wasn't, was a ''clear try'' as some are suggesting.

If the same thing happened against leeds and the try was awarded, you'd get the same people on here claiming to award that try was a disgrace and he didn't have full control. They'd say it was a ''clear no try''.

The problem is alot of decisions come down to interpretation and will depend on who the video ref is. When decisions are down to interpretation you will get inconsustency. What is a no try to one ref, is benefit of the doubt and try to another.

I speak for no-one other than myself.

It matters not to me whether Leeds or the opposition stand to benefit from the ruling, I'll state my view of the incident on it's own merits.

IMO it was a clear try. McGuire had his fingers holding the ball all the way down to the ground where on impact it slipped away from his grasp and as that was after he had the neccessary control on grounding didn't prevent it being a try.

Do you still think Delaney caught the ball in line with where Sinfield released it?

Not sure why but SLTV has included the Bradford no try in the highlights but neither of the Leeds no trys in the second half- admission of guilt perhaps?

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Theres an element of seperation between mcguires hands and the ball just before he grounds it. It does a small bobble on the ground because he's holding it sideways. It's not a clear try. Some will give it, some won't. But there's certainly doubt. IMO he doesn't have full control.

And it's an opinion you are entitled to hold.

What about the pass to Delaney now, is it still in line with where Sinfield released it as you stated on here the other day?

Can they not appoint one person with the sole job of video reffing every game? I'm not aware of an occasion where two games using video refs in England were being played at the same time. At least that way there would (or perhaps should would be more appropriate....) be a lot more consistency. With a different person being video ref every week we're bound to get inconsistency down to one person interpreting something differently to the next person.

That's a hobby-horse of mine, I've been asking the same question for the last few seasons.

The ideal appointment IMO would be Ian Smith. I rarely find his decisions anything but correct when he's in the role and that isn't a situation I find with any of the others on a consistent basis.

Of course Smith is also one of the 'magnificent seven' so it's unlikely to get off the ground until he's ready to hang up his whistle.

The other day delaney was level, but since then, he's decided to alter his position to about half a metre in front of sinfield.

well if you keep looking maybe you will get the right answer? he is (you are) moving in the right direction

It's an improvement I suppose but you've still a way to go.

IMO of course.

Perhaps in another couple of days you'll see McGuire scoring the disallowed try.

mcguires no try might have been a 50/50 but he deserved to have it awarded just for his effort
theres very few players that would have even had the awareness to even attempt to ground from his position

You're sounding like Phil Clarke.

He deserves a try 'only' if he got the ball down within the rules. I think he did.

Just going back to Origin and the NRL in general - the cry from fans over here was that the dual referee system would speed up the play the ball and make the Australian game much faster than SL, giving them an even bigger advantage.

Based on what I've seen on MSK since it went free to air the NRL doesn't actually seem that much quicker in terms of clearing the tackle area than SL - anyone elses thoughts on whether it has actually made a difference?