It was a typical estate pub (if you have enough time, ask McLaren Field to tell you about estate pubs in the North East) - fine if everyone knew you, but not a place you wanted to go as a stranger. It tended to police itself.

Martin Flay and Martin Richardson?

No offence Damo lad but I hardly think the first thoughts of people when you walk into a pub would be " oh look hes a gangster/drug dealer lets shoot him" !!

I would have thought it would be more along the lines of " ID him"

You might speculate that, I wouldn't wish to either confirm or deny.

If I recall it was one set of not particularly charming individuals looking for another set of equally charmless ones and a lot of innocent people getting caught in the middle.

I had the Boylans involved there somewhere, but I might be mixing it up with the attack on The Manston they ended up going down for.

This is correct

Did the Whinmoor too?

I still think they might have been the intended target of the attack on The Trotters?

Mentioning Martin Flay, isn't he inside for assaulting his sister?

My Sister and her boyfriend at the time were in the Manston when that incident occured!

I was in close proximity of an attack in a City Centre Pub by the Lulu`s Gang or more specifically the father of one of the Lulu`s gangs for thos who go as far back as me

First time we went in the barman jumped over the bar with a pool cue and chased a load of Asian kids out. He came back and said the strippers on upstairs lads,we wondered what we had let ourselves in for.Very dodgy upstairs with some girls who it was best not to make eye contact with.Never had any trouble though and always had a good laugh with the blue comic who was always on.Happy days