We’re a long way from even getting to OT yet.

We can beat any team on the day, but the same can be said about any of the top six teams at the moment.

We’ve not even won the hub cap yet!!

Can we win the GF? – Yes

Will we win the GF? – we can only hope.

I think we've earned the right to be confident but saying that those of us who've supported Leeds pre-2004 know full well how you can promise so much and deliver f#ck all!!
I've said before that other than leeds the only team i'd never write off is saints and as i posted friday night showed imo that these are still the best 2 teams in the comp!
There are threats from HKR,Giants and possibly wigan but if the top 2 maintain their play-off form it's between them 3 times in a row and given the last 2 yrs i'd back us again.

What about Bradford???

or are you suggesting that Mick Gledhill is talking complete and utter b0llox????

It only takes a slightly off performance from Leeds for this lot to be on the players back again. Mark my words.

Last season there were very few people in RL who didn't write Leeds off in the GF. The arrogance from Saints was astounding.

I got very good odds on Leeds and won £125.00 on the Leeds win. That's because I'm not a knee jerker who balances the whole rest of the season on the last game or a couple of injuries. Writing Leeds off because Lee Smith is at full back instead of Brent Webb is exceedingly disrespectful and some supporters they are. He embarrassed those people did Smithy.

But, to answer your question, nothing is cut and dried and Leeds could very possibly lose the GF, if we get there. That will be very embarrassing for a few people on here and will also trigger vitriol against the Leeds team again.

Could we lose on Friday, lets think Salford nothing to play for ,but nothing to lose throw the ball about with abandon and it comes off? they have good players Ratchford looking to make name for himself, Leeds uptight feeling they have to win, overconfident , YES we can lose on Friday the same goes for any game, as someone said if you supported Leeds before 2004 (our miracle year) you know only to well how it can go rapidly down the toilet.

Why would leeds fans not be confident? They just beat the second placed team, finishing top (probably), look OK on the injury front and will have suspended players back for play-offs.

I didn't hear anyone say they couldn't be beat.

Leeds have won grand finals against the 'favourites' so i'd imagine they'll be less inclined to be complacement.

I think you are exaggerating a bit here, I've not read anything like that, quite the opposite in fact.

I was more confident of winning the GF last year than I am this year.

I think the fact everybody had written us off last year motivated the players greatly, you could see it in the line speed, to keep those energy levels up as we did must have have been partly fuelled by anger and having been written off by almost everybody in the game.

My doubts this year are mainly due to the overall size and power of the Saints team against ours, i just think we are a little to light in the forward and down one of our centre / wing partnerships.

I think we are probably slightly more skillfull, faster etc but more powerful? i don't. If we get to the GF again and play Saints, our kicking game will have to be spot on once again (as it was in 04, 07 & 0icon_cool.gif.

I'm not saying we can't get to the GF and win it, I'm just saying that Saints will still have a major say in the outcome.

If it's raining in the Grand Final Leeds have a chance for the treble

Out team has the talent and ability to win the GF.....but so have any of the others in the mix. Even Bradford should they get past Hull this weekend. After the season they've had, it's amazing how the sniff of something can transform an entire team.

No disrespect to the other 6, but I pretty sure that both Saints and Leeds would be viewed as favourites, but nothing is a given in RL, and that's what makes our game so good.

So, the short answer is yes, I'm confident that we have an outstanding chance of lifting the Trophy, but would only be arrogant about it on the Saints board, where your Mods are getting very twitchy!

A key factor about Friday is how pxxd off the players are for losing at home to Salford (worst performance of the season, says JP) and the desire for revenge should overcome any feelings of complacency.

You don't half talk some poop. Where does it say anywhere on this forum that we all think that the SL GF is already won by us?

This year is harder to call than the last 3 I think. I don't believe there is one genuine "third" strong team that can match Saints and Leeds consistancy, but if you look at the games lost over the season (including the CC semis) it is obvious that there are some good teams out there who can upset anyone. I would even count Bradford in that (should they make the . Bradford have beaten us and Saints and are (yes Mick Gledhill) looking like they are getting a bit of form on.

The playoffs are as Tony Smith mentioned on Friday, about which teams handle the pressure best. In that department we do have an advantage, but this year I think there is a lot more confidence from the likes of HKR, Hudds, Wigan, etc. that they can challenge anyone.
I see it as tougher to win this year, and if we don't then it may say more about how the cap is finally levelling up teams than that Leeds have underperformed.

Nobody has won 3 titles in a row, it would be an awesome achievement, and so the flip side is that not to win this year could hardly be called a disaster.