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| But in the Wigan v Hull KR game, the hooter sounded, the ref played on, KR scored and the explanation is they should play to the refs whistle. No consistency as usual.
Agree the video ref in the Wakey game was a joke. the obstruction ruling was ridiculous and then even Brad Drew was surprised to be given a try. Mr Halibut should've gone to Specsavers!
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| Quote: Rhinos Fan Pam "Mr Halibut should've gone to Specsavers!'"
I don't think there is any need for that.
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| Quote: Rhinos Fan Pam "But in the Wigan v Hull KR game, the hooter sounded, the ref played on, KR scored and the explanation is they should play to the refs whistle. No consistency as usual.
Agree the video ref in the Wakey game was a joke. the obstruction ruling was ridiculous and then even Brad Drew was surprised to be given a try. Mr Halibut should've gone to Specsavers!'" refs claimed not to have heard the hooter
altho today looked a mess going off bbc clocks, the ref was correct. he's not in control of the time, the time keepers (a member from each club) are, the ball had not gone into the scrum, so it was full time.
i doubt the bbc have access to the official time keepers, so most likely the time of the tv/big screen is from a 3rd party timekeeper. so the bbc time is irrelevant to the game, if anyone should looks silly its the BBC not the ref
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| Also the forward pass rule, i know its been a joke for some time, but king passed it on the 20m line, clarke collected it just short of the 10m line with the ref stood in line. momentum rule? thats some momentum.
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| Quote: mps "Also the forward pass rule, i know its been a joke for some time, but king passed it on the 20m line, clarke collected it just short of the 10m line with the ref stood in line. momentum rule? thats some momentum.'"
It looked alright where Mr Bentham leaned how to referee in Warrington.
That said I don't know how he came up with the 20 metre restart after Briers was tackled into touch early in the game.
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| Quote: tvoc "It looked alright where Mr Bentham leaned how to referee in Warrington.
That said I don't know how he came up with the 20 metre restart after Briers was tackled into touch early in the game.'" defused the kick behind the try line. not sure it was the correct call, as not sure if its in the rule book, but king was behind the try line, it bounced off him so kick is still live, briers then takes the ball.
i don't think it looks good, or it actually what most would describe defusing the kick. so if it isn't in the rule book, then it should be changed to state a clean take
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| Whats this got to do with our Assistant/Acadamy Coach?
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| Quote: MHL "defused the kick behind the try line. not sure it was the correct call, as not sure if its in the rule book, but king was behind the try line, it bounced off him so kick is still live, briers then takes the ball.
i don't think it looks good, or it actually what most would describe defusing the kick. so if it isn't in the rule book, then it should be changed to state a clean take'"
That was the one and I was being obtuse as I know why Bentham gave the ruling even though I didn't agree with it. It may have been a correct call but I'd be surprised if anyone other than King could difuse the bomb in that situation.
One for the rule book owners to clear up.
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| Quote: tvoc "That was the one and I was being obtuse as I know why Bentham gave the ruling even though I didn't agree with it. It may have been a correct call but I'd be surprised if anyone other than King could difuse the bomb in that situation.
One for the rule book owners to clear up.'"
The ball never touched the ground so it's irrellevant who it touches. As long as its taken on the full, which it was.
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| Quote: Hollywood Harrigan "The ball never touched the ground so it's irrellevant who it touches. As long as its taken on the full, which it was.'"
Fair enough if that's what it says in the rules. An unusual circumstance, I can't recall another similar one to refer back to.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "The hooter over-rules the referee.'"
The referee is the sole arbitrator of when the game finishes. The hooter sounding is only an indication that, in the opinon of the time-keepers, the full amount of time has been played.
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| Quote: Lord_Percy "The referee is the sole arbitrator of when the game finishes. The hooter sounding is only an indication that, in the opinon of the time-keepers, the full amount of time has been played.'"
I always understood the correct ruling is that the referree ends the game at the next stoppage in play, which is usually the next completed tackle. If the hooter sounds at a dead ball situation such as a drop out, tap restart (but not following a penalty) or set scrum he ends the game immediately.
Which Bentham did on Saturday.
I watched the Huddersfield - Castleford game and on at least one occasion the clock on the screen did not stop when the referee called time off in the second half but the hooter still sounded when it reached 80.00. Make of that what you will.
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| Quote: tvoc "I watched the Huddersfield - Castleford game and on at least one occasion the clock on the screen did not stop when the referee called time off in the second half but the hooter still sounded when it reached 80.00. Make of that what you will.'"
All part of the Zionist media conspiracy to deny Cas their rightful place?
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| Quote: Lord_Percy "The referee is the sole arbitrator of when the game finishes. The hooter sounding is only an indication that, in the opinon of the time-keepers, the full amount of time has been played.'"
Not 100% accurate. The referees dont keep track of the time and rely on the time keepers to do thier job. If the hooter goes then the referee can only assume that the clock had expired before he called time off. Regardless of the time lapse in between.
Can you imagine if Warrington had have scored a drop goal and it came out that the time was up but play was allowed to go on?
Karma maybe but still not right.
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| Quote: Hollywood Harrigan "Not 100% accurate. The referees dont keep track of the time and rely on the time keepers to do thier job. If the hooter goes then the referee can only assume that the clock had expired before he called time off. Regardless of the time lapse in between.'"
But that's what I was getting at. Whilst the time-keeper can signal that time is up, the game only stops when the referee blows his whistle, i.e. the time-keeper is only an aide to the referee. It's the ref who decides if/when the game has finished, not anybody else.
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