When that's the best thing you can think of to say, you've hit a new low IMO.

surely the low of poorer performace was lower

thought it was a ridiculous thing to say personally and not good enough

if he was asked the question..

"was that the worst performance you have seen since taking over as head coach?"

Then it is a suitable answer, however i don't imagine it was..

I think you could do with a utility back. With Smith off to Wasps, I don't think Gibson is good enough or Watkins is ready to play super league week-in week-out.

You're spot on with that post.

Gibson has had chance after chance and failed to really show anything spectacular, he's a steady player but he's just not good enough to play week in week out in a supposed champion side.

Watkins is a very big talent, and he is going to be something special, but at the present moment he isn't ready for Super League week in week out, and is prone to making a lot of errors.

i agree we seem to be lacking something in defence since he has gone and he filled in at centre last year at times and he did a good job

I think McClennan is probably accurate as the Bradford performance takes some beating.

The result V Salford was a new low point though. When was the last time Leeds have lost at home to a team in their post promotion season?

You tell me, stat guru.

Did any of the defeats to Wakey come after they had been out of the top flight? Likewise Hull FC?

Just checked on RLFans SL State and they beat us in both promotion seasons 2008 and 2006, though not at HQ.

See rlhttp://www.slstats.org/t10/Castleford%20Tigers/2008/Fixtures.htmlrl

and rlhttp://www.slstats.org/t10/Castleford%20Tigers/2006/Fixtures.htmlrl

Sorry I didn't see TVOC specify at home, just seen that now

Looks like they came close in 2006 against the same opposition as last weekend.

I can sense you're trying to nullify the historical significance I've managed to build up in my imagination here.

Before Monday:

Question: When was the last time Leeds have been beaten at home by a team in their post promotion season?

Answer: Widnes 29th April 2002 Leeds 10 Widnes 14.

Question: When was the last time Leeds lost both games over the Easter period?

Answer: Not 100% clued up on when Easter falls but how about

29th March 1997 Bradford 24 Leeds 10

And

1st April 1997 Halifax 24 Leeds 18

Both those were away games though so perhaps

5th April 1996 Castleford 26 Leeds 23

And

8th April 1996 Leeds 24 St Helens 46