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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "She has left her children with the worst possible legacy. Imagine as they grow up, and how they will learn about their mother. No amount of money will compensate for that - I hope they manage to grow up without being totally fecked up by all this, but I doubt it. If Jade was really, really thinking about her kids then the best thing to do would have been to show some dignity and leave them with something they could be proud of.
Shame on Max Clifford also. I've never held the popular opinion of him (that he was a total *******). But he has given poor advice here.
I do feel for the children, but Jade's self obsession and need to be in the media has hurt them and will continue to hurt them for the rest of their lives.'"
Having a glimpse of what goes on in the world of "celebrity" via a family member then I can only pass on the information that you shouldn't believe all that you read in the newspapers.
To take Jade Goody as an example of a "celebrity" who is a celebrity for the sheer hell of being a celebrity as opposed to (but not all that disimilar from) a celebrity who is a celbrity because they had five minutes of fame as a popular singing artist (Kerry Katona and her like), you have to understand that their only purpose in getting out of bed in a morning is to make sure that something is released via your agent that day.
Max Clifford is the best in the world at doing that and the challenge that he thought he was facing when he took on Jade Goody after her infamous racist Big Brother episode must have changed to "Its all my christmas's come at once" when she discovered that she had a terminal illness, even I could have sold her story after that.
Back to the "celebrity" lifestyle ... the opportunities to earn a lot of money are not as frequent as you'd believe and without a good agent then you simply won't get them, you'll also discover that if your real talent is very shallow then all you'll have to sell is a lifestyle story in which you go for shock or sympathy, Kerry Katona has tried both and boxed herself into a corner as an object of ridicule, where Jade Goody found a niche with her illness Katona is a bankrupt who tried to present herself in a wealthy "WAG" format while all the time spending more than she was earning - a years worth of Iceland earnings went to pay a tax bill that should have been paid the year before - where do you go from there when MTV want to film inside your executive pad that is one week away from being repossesed and at what point do you confess to that and let them in when the bailiffs arrive - all she had to sell then was the story of her seperation from the scuffer that was hanging on to her purse.
Story's of millions earned by having your face in OK and Hello! are bollax perpetuated by the "celebrities" who want to be known as the one who is worth the most and not denied by the magazines themselves as its hardly bad publicity to be known as the top payer in the business, even when £500 is their starting point for most negotiations, £30k being the average for a really juicy story or even a wedding if your name isn't Beckham.
So was Jade Goody wrong for dying on camera ?
Its the only skill she had, her earnings before her diagnosis would have been down to zero, possibly with legal threats from her franchised products suppliers (how much does it cost to pull "Jade" perfume off the shelves) and with an expensive lifestyle to pay for and two children to provide a future for then who can blame her - I don't.
The fekkwits who buy the magazines are another story, and I include my own family in that...
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "...her earnings before her diagnosis would have been down to zero, '"
[iIn 2008, Goody appeared in the Indian version of Big Brother, Bigg Boss. She was rumoured to have been offered £100,000 to take part.[/i
And what merit do you think any legal threat had against her? On one hand you're claiming she's got zero earnings, so the supplies are SOL on that part, and on the other it would be funny to see the suppliers in court arguing that they felt Goody was a reliable person to base their business upon.
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Is she going to be the first person who`s biggest claim to fame is dying ?'"
Well at least Goody was famous before she found out she was dying. What was Tomlinson famous for?
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| Quote: LS16_Rhino "You’ve got to admire someone who has managed to make themselves a millionaire by being a talentless racist bigot.'"
Jim Davidson has been doing it for years !!! BTW i dont admire him
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| it's where we are at.
whether you like it or not
A> i think her motivation for the recent publicity is to leave her kids as much money as possible, she had few other ways of doing it.
B> Max Clifford is very good at what he does, whether you like him or not. His autobiog is worth a read (and is in the bargain bin), it may not entirely change your opinion, but there is more to the man than meets the eye, and he has lead an interesting life.
C> The number of women going for smears has gone through the roof.
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| Quote: flipper "it's where we are at.
whether you like it or not
A> i think her motivation for the recent publicity is to leave her kids as much money as possible, she had few other ways of doing it.
B> Max Clifford is very good at what he does, whether you like him or not. His autobiog is worth a read (and is in the bargain bin), it may not entirely change your opinion, but there is more to the man than meets the eye, and he has lead an interesting life.
C> The number of women going for smears has gone through the roof.'"
At last somebody has pointed out this very good by-product of the whole affair.
As the father of 2 daughters I am hoping that the age of young ladies being able to have this, potentially, life saving test free on the NHS is lowered.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "[iIn 2008, Goody appeared in the Indian version of Big Brother, Bigg Boss. She was rumoured to have been offered £100,000 to take part.[/i
You've just demonstrated what I was saying - read what you pasted from Wikipedia, especially the word "rumoured".
You also need to place the figure of £100k into context, to me its a lot of money, I could live my lifestyle, pay my mortgage and all the other overheads for several years without having to work again if someone would give me £100k.
In the real world of "celeb" of course that doesn't happen, you have to pay tax on that earning and then you have to pay your agent, and they'll charge VAT on their fees. Your (rumoured) £2mill mansion won't have council tax fees of £100 a month on it and your gas and electricity bills won't be £40 a month either and if you bought it on a mortgage on the strength of future earning potential then your eyes will water every month when the payment comes around.
Likewise when OK mag want a photograph of you inside your new house they won't expect to find a kitchen (they always take the photos in the kitchen) from B&Q so the kitchen that you install on the strength of future earnings from "At home with..." photos will also make your eyes water when you get the bill, in fact the BB India earnings probably won't cover it.
Nor will they hardly cover the several cars in your driveway (will they Ms Katona) or the insurance payments on them, and we haven't even started with the payments to the security company who look after your house while you're working because as several footballers have discovered, its fekkin obvious you're not at home when you're live on TV.
So you see, £100k, although only a rumour, is small change in the lifestyle of someone who wants to give the impression that they are in the same league as a premiership footballer - just ask Ms Katona...
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| She was hated before she was ill, and then in her last few weeks, she was fantastic. Typical fickle members of society.
Now I've even seen and heared members of the "Great British public" called her a "legend", and an "icon", a fantastic role model" in the last few week.
It is what is wrong with the society, that a low life, racist, offensive, no brainer gets much more publicity than a woman who died of the same illness who raised hundreds of thounsands for chairity. She then incidentally was accussed of faking her illness
Without going through the full the transcript of the coversation, someone I know the other week said,
"why do you dislike her, you've got admire her for making something from her life, and that is what she has done, she is a clever woman for making something out of nothing". I gave up, but this sort of attitude is obviously down to the fault of the people who read the magazines, and the tripe that is on television.
Infact, my Grandad said today, "all to do with money, her death seems so fake, no dignity in todays world." It seems quite an accurate summary tbh.
Now what will happen to her "fantastic lover boy". Wonder if he will continue attacking taxi drivers
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Well at least Goody was famous before she found out she was dying. What was Tomlinson famous for?'"
Well my fecktard friend, that is the point, Tomlinson was an ordinary mum who used here remaining time not seeking fame or fortune, but raising money to help others.The last thing she wanted was personal "fame".
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Well my fecktard friend that is the point Tomlinson was an ordinary mum who used here remaining time not seeking fame or fortune but raising money to help others.The last thing she was personal "fame".'"
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Well at least Goody was famous before she found out she was dying. What was Tomlinson famous for?'"
Famous for being a thick fat ignorant pig? Oh yea!!
Jane Tomlinson became famous for WANTING to help others who would suffer the same illness as her.
Dont try and compare the two. Jane Tomlinson by plenty!!
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| Now Gordon"the moron"Brown has got in on the act, making a public statement of how sad he is and sending condolences to the family.
Just like he does every time British soldier is killed in Iraq or Afghanistan........Oh hang on minute........
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Well my fecktard friend, that is the point, Tomlinson was an ordinary mum who used here remaining time not seeking fame or fortune, but raising money to help others.The last thing she wanted was personal "fame".'"
Well said mate!
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Well my fecktard friend, that is the point, Tomlinson was an ordinary mum who used here remaining time not seeking fame or fortune, but raising money to help others.The last thing she wanted was personal "fame".'" Exactly, if I was ever unfortunate enough to be diagnosed with a terminal illness if I could remain just half as positive and dignified as Jane Tomlinson did, and raise just a fraction of the money that she did for the cause I would be happy and I would know my actions would leave my family proud of me.
The two people are completely impossible to compare because how they dealt with the tragic news was so different.
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