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only one with the bait here mate

I'm with Gareth here - Manly were awesome on the night - their physicality and skill was a delight to watch. If we had played them when they were match fit they would have put 50 past us such was the gulf in ability.

What was impressive to me was the lack of errors from Manly and the they way they did the basics so well - their passing and running off the ball was something else and Orford's kicking - both Sinfield and McGuire take note. The speed of Manly was 25% above Leeds on the night - their lack of error was all the more impressive because of that.

By contrast we looked laboured slow and clueless for most of the game - one out rugby might be sufficient to knock off most clubs in SL but against a top side with a solid defence we made little impact.

It shows you cannot play against a top side without your best players - losing Burrow would have had little effect in my view but given Diskin's dismal performance Buderus would surely have had a positive impact.

Questions must be also asked about Peacock - this is the second game in four where he has been off the field for fighting - teams will soon start to niggle him to get him off.

Manly - what a side well worth the admission money - great to see RL played at the very highest level

We also looked wide open on our right centre.. saints will have taken note,

They can take note all they like. That wasnt our first choice centre.

I thought Leeds toughed it out quite well in the 2nd half - it looked fairly bad early in the 2nd half but you stood up and scored some good tries. Not many SL sides would have done that.

What is worrying for British RL is that the most dangerous man on the field for Leeds by some distance was Lautiti, who had a great game. I fear if Saints were playing our most dangerous man in this type of game would probably be Puletua.

What I am trying to say is that we seem to cream ourselves about British RL talent a bit too much - your typical Aussie NRL player is miles ahead of his British equivalent in terms of speed, skill and balance - games like the WCC merely highlight this. The sooner people like Eddie and Stevo realise this the better.

Jamie Lyon was not outstanding for Manly last night but looked good in patches - he will be awesome if he comes back to SL - another example.