I did not suggest simply making wholesale changes. The signings we could and should have made were to the key positions like a playmaking half back which would have transformed our performances as we have seen from other sides.

A class playmaker can make ordinary players look better than they are. Two or three class signings plus giving the promising youngsters game time would have transformed out performances.

So I do not accept that 3 years is required to turn around our fortunes, that is just an excuse for poor management and bad recruitment.

My comment about Furner is that his head coach experience was poor to say the least and he had the dubious honour of coaching the team to the most consecutive losses in its history and in finishing second to bottom was the worst finish since the clubs debut season in 1982. He was sacked as a result and has only been offered assistant jobs since 2013 until Leeds came along in desperation. So rookie might not be the right description but you certainly wouldn’t say he was a successful top coach either.

You point suggests these players are available and want to come and play for Leeds - perhaps neither Austin or Hastings wanted to play for Leeds? Class players both Merrin and Hurrell are quality signings.

You can only change things around if you can release players either through transfer or contract expires, Tui has been a disaster and he is here for 2 more seasons after this - that is why I said it will take 3 years

I would agree Furner has much to prove but you cannot say he is inexperienced.

Awful signing. I knew virtually nothing of him personally before he arrived not really noticed him at international level, and what i have seen so far for us its hard to fathom how anyone could think this a guy to lead us into a new era playing in a key position. Thankfully as said the other two have been our best so far.

I doubt if we seriously went after Austin or Hastings. I agree about Merrin and Hurrell but they are not controlling halfbacks which should have been our first target.

You cannot say Furner experienced a lot of success as a head coach either so in that important aspect he was and still is a rookie.

We certainly went after Austin, he’s on big money at Warrington that we wouldn’t match.

Went after Austin, ended up with Lolohea. How badly wrong can we get things?

Probably Gary Hetherington’s worst decision while at the club

Quote: Sal Paradise "You point suggests these players are available and want to come and play for Leeds - perhaps neither Austin or Hastings wanted to play for Leeds? '" Hastings would have dropped everything to be signed by our DOR - he was practically begging Leeds to sign himI grew up watching Leeds and the likes of Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow – they were sort of the reason I started watching the Betfred Super League. “I was lucky enough to listen to a speech that Kevin Sinfield presented to the team while I was at Sydney Roosters and just the way he spoke made me realise just how highly respected he is over here and definitely in Australia, also.'" Quote: Sal Paradise "And he has already been left starstruck after meeting Leeds director of rugby Kevin Sinfield, who he listened to intently in a speech while at Sydney Roosters, after helping demolish his side 38-22 on his debut. Hastings, who takes on Hull KR in Salford's first Qualifiers game on Friday, added https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6966623/ ... in-the-uk/ https://www.salfordreddevils.net/jackso ... ed-jersey/

Quote: Sal Paradise "You point suggests these players are available and want to come and play for Leeds - perhaps neither Austin or Hastings wanted to play for Leeds? '" Hastings would have dropped everything to be signed by our DOR - he was practically begging Leeds to sign himI grew up watching Leeds and the likes of Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow – they were sort of the reason I started watching the Betfred Super League. “I was lucky enough to listen to a speech that Kevin Sinfield presented to the team while I was at Sydney Roosters and just the way he spoke made me realise just how highly respected he is over here and definitely in Australia, also.'" Quote: Sal Paradise "And he has already been left starstruck after meeting Leeds director of rugby Kevin Sinfield, who he listened to intently in a speech while at Sydney Roosters, after helping demolish his side 38-22 on his debut. Hastings, who takes on Hull KR in Salford's first Qualifiers game on Friday, added https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6966623/ ... in-the-uk/ https://www.salfordreddevils.net/jackso ... ed-jersey/

Sneaky feeling we may sign him,possibly after we play them(and doubtless lose) next!

Might transform the side if it came off. I'll wait and see if owt actually happens though.

Reports coming in that we are once again playing like a set of badly coached no hopers!Sorry Dave enough is enough!

Agreed

If it's the same this time next season i would agree but i think it's right to back him and give him a chance to have a full pre season get his own guys in and weed out the garbage. We have a generally poor squad and he was lumbered with it.

He's not going anywhere.

"If it's the same next season" good lord... I agree completely thr squad ain't great but I'm sorry it should be doing better than 2nd bottom. Fact.