It’s probably more to do with him playing alongside a leading contender for MOS

Too many dumb errors, Lunt knocking on and then losing the ball both within 10 of their line, both centres are poor in defence, that kick off drop killed is. I thought we were average to poor at best. At 20-8 down, we looked out of it and fair play they came back well, but I thought FC looked a better side overall.

I’d be surprised if we win at hudds and then we will be staring into the abyss.

Our future could well now depend on whether Saints rest 10 or not. Depressing.

Think Agar sounds a bit over critical of some players in that press conference. I have to be honest I thought most played really well. Only ones I can critisize are Hurrell who is every bit as poor defender as Lolohea was, and having Dwyer on too long, who leaves big gaps in the defence.

I disagree we were poor/average I thought we looked the best in attack for a while but...

I agree on the dumb errors, our league position is clearly affecting the players as at some points they look like theyre expecting to make an error.

Thought Rhyse Martin looked good in attack but his defensive technique cost us a few times with head high tackles.

Newman is learning the hard way but you cannot expect a young player to come up from the Academy to not make errors

I thought we were second best over the 80 minutes but could have won with a bit more composure towards the end. We struggled to contain Hulls go forward most of the time. We are a poor side and joint bottom is where we deserve to be.
I thought we improved when Dwyer came on, and bar his late error Peteru didn't do too bad considering that he has not played for a while.
Not the long term answer at 6 but Cameron Smith did ok imo.

I thought we had a dig to come back from 12 nil.Hull's goal line defence at times was brilliant.If we had just a little bit more composure and not headless chickens at times it could well have been a different result.Much improved from the Hull KR debacle.

I wonder who will be next weeks new signing before the next defeat

Errors have killed us all year. We keep saying cut them out and we'll win but we keep on making them. More worrying in the last two games is the slow start.

We just aren't good enough even our Marquee signing

We're close to full strength and in a must win game just aren't good enough. Even if we stay up we're nothing more than a mid-table squad.

I still think a few real high quality additions in key positions would transform us.

Our back row looks pretty strong next year - especially if Ward can get and stay fit, and if we stop having to play back rowers in the halves or at hooker due to another signing or two there.

Our back line also looks OK next year (if we stay up of course). Newman, Walker and Handley all have improvement in them. Handley gets stick but he’s been pretty good at times - certainly not our biggest problem.

We clearly still have some problems around half back and still front row for me.

We’re not all that far away IMO; but the issues that remain are sticky. I suspect we might have to wait another couple of seasons to really work this out, and for our top young talent to amount to something in first grade.

We lack structure in our attack weve no moves and no spread plays with dummy runners. That was fine when we had Maggsy and Burrow who could break a game open or an Ali Lau who could attract 3 men to him and still offload but we dont have any of that at all now and were still trying to play the same way.

We should be looking to put both centres into space but we dont really seem to ever have a plan as to how to do that.

As people have said Hurrell's defence is beyond belief, flying in to sort an issue that doesn't exist and leaving Handley outside him with no hope at all. Absolutely unbelievable. Surely they work on this thru the week but it happens every 5 minutes so who knows. I think that he and the team defends better with Ferres inside him but I know that's not a popular opinion but it is the truth.

Weve started the last 4 halves weve played shockingly and were not in a position to do that.

Lots for Agar and the team to work on. Really disappointing and not good enough.