The loss doesn’t define our season, it’ll be forgotten if we win next game, trophies aren’t won in April, blah blah etc etc.

Please cut and paste the above for my response when we lose, which will be every couple of weeks for the rest of the season.

We are not a nursery for coaches. For him to iron out his mistakes and then go to St Helens to win grand finals.

We expect, and should be gunning for trophies. Clubs standards are in the mud.

Why have we seemingly got worse the more time smith has had with them?

I’ll be Smith out if we just rot like this for the rest of the season.

We were in the GF 11 games ago.

I'd like to see Shinfield in for sezer when we return with gannon coming in too, Bentley either starts or doesn't play and Johnson consistently on the bench. Walters to get an opportunity too.

Agreed

I have, and for quite a while, no confidence in smith.
i hope he proves me wrong but I don't rate him and can't see us becoming succesunder him

Personally i think some are underestimating how big Smith’s task is. We have badly mismanaged the cap for a fair few years, one of the reasons smith was brought in was his ability with younger players and bringing them through, it wasn’t as if he took over a great squad with balance who was already successful.

Hes come in got rid of some of the dead wood and will do the same this year. We didn’t build our (relatively) recent success on short term thinking, that’s been our problem for the last 6 years and why we are having to continue to rebuild.

I still think we’ll finish in the top 4 this year though.

In Rohan we trust......................... Leeds only start playing in August so don't worry?

Not sure about Smith but I'm even less sure about the culture within the playing group. Who has that genuine will to win? We're in the situation where the likes of Dwyer, Donaldson and the like are rightly giving way to players with more talent. Unfortunately their replacements seemingly lack their commitment to the cause and will to win.
I'm looking especially at those who've come through our system and in whom that should be most deeply embedded. Have they got it? As of now, I'd have to say not.
Skill -wise we probably have most of the tools needed.

Interesting view, would you like to expand on the view, the players coming through are not committed to winning.

Id be interested too because it’s not what I’m seeing

Anyone reading that would think we’re Hull FC

Lack of commitment or poorly coached, it’s one or the other or both.

I get a sense with Austin that it's frustration to a degree. He gives everything (effort is the minimum expectation, I know) but his overplaying at times is, in my opinion, borne out of a lack of creativity elsewhere.

Who specifically are you talking about player wise that lack’s commitment?

It just sounds like a typical knee jerk reaction after a loss to me.