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| Quote: Gotcha "There is only you, you make look silly.
And by the way, and we had this last year, I employ someone who is openly homosexual, so you can put your unwarranted accusations away.'"
Did they have the temerity to push their gay agenda by posting a picture of their partner on their private Facebook page aswell!
Let me guess, some of your best friends are black too?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Did they have the temerity to push their gay agenda by posting a picture of their partner on their private Facebook page aswell!
Let me guess, some of your best friends are black too?'"
I am unsure what his facebook page would have to do with anything, as he stated it openly on his application form. I am assuming you are pushing your self righteous nonsense again?
No I don't have black best mate. I have a gym buddy if that helps? and two or three of my sons mates are black. Does that make me better or worse? or are you now going to push that everybody should have best mate of a different colour otherwise you are racist?
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| Quote: Gotcha "I am unsure what his facebook page would have to do with anything, as he stated it openly on his application form. I am assuming you are pushing your self righteous nonsense again?
No I don't have black best mate. I have a gym buddy if that helps? and two or three of my sons mates are black. Does that make me better or worse?
It seems it was a little to 'suttle' for you
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It seems it was a little to 'suttle' for you'"
Not at all, it is quite clear what your agenda is, there are many of you about. Militants with heads in books and don't live in the real world around you. Some call them loonies, I just feel sorry for you.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Not at all, it is quite clear what your agenda is, there are many of you about. Militants with heads in books and don't live in the real world around you. Some call them loonies, I just feel sorry for you.'"
Your real world being where the rfl are pushing a gay agenda by giving James child the game on Friday of course.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Your real world being where the rfl are pushing a gay agenda by giving James child the game on Friday of course.'"
All through this thread, as more and more comes out showing your loonie tendancy's, you keep rewriting what is put. I have noticed it mainly with Printers posts, but here you are again.
The issue that has been spoken about many times on this thread is about not dealing with incompetence, and the possible reasons for that, yet dealing with it with others. Not about giving something because of someones sexuality, but about not dealing with a problem because of their sexuality and the response it would get from people like you. This is the major difference you seem incapable of understanding due to continually accusing and ranting, instead of seeing what is in front of you.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "If the process has an inherent bias to one particular group then removing or overcoming that bias isn't positive discrimination. That is equality.
The problem with the position you are taking here is it assumes from the outset that there is no bias. That the current process treats everyone equally and that a minority is given an advantage by things changing or being done differently, it forgets that the status quo has inherent benefits to some parties. The status quo already discriminates.'"
Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary Definition of positive discrimination in English
[MASS NOUN] British
(In the context of the allocation of resources or employment) [sizethe practice or policy of favouring individuals belonging to groups which suffer discrimination.[/size
You might mean well and want the world to be a better fairer place, but you can't change the meaning of words to suit your argument and you shouldn't bandy words like bigot around just because people don't agree with your particular view of situations. The major intolerance shown on this thread has come from you!
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| Where is the favour? In any of the examples discussed where was a minority being favoured? That of course being an integral part of positive discrimination
The removal or mitigation of structural bias is not positive discrimination
And yes I am proudly intolerant of bigotry and homophobia and when people, as certain ones have here, indulge in homophobia and bigotry they will be called out on it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Where is the favour? In any of the examples discussed where was a minority being favoured? That of course being an integral part of positive discrimination
The removal or mitigation of structural bias is not positive discrimination
And yes I am proudly intolerant of bigotry and homophobia and when people, as certain ones have here, indulge in homophobia and bigotry they will be called out on it.'"
That's it? I bet everyone is so proud of you, you are such a special little person. Just a shame you can't put as much effort into defending the problems you believe exist in this world, rather than the effort you put into ranting unwarranted accusations.
At no point on this thread have you defended the person talked about, but have instead continued to make things up and make wild accusations. People wanting away with prejudice who work hard for the cause, could do without the likes of you proclaiming to be in their camp.
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| You are prejudiced. You have made an unevidenced homophobic accusation for no other reason than to denigrate and demean a gay person. That is what you have been called out on. That is where you have shown bigotry and homophobia. There is no walking back from what you said and the position you took which was that James child had only achieved what he has as a referee because he is gay. That isn't true. Has no basis in evidenced and is simply an opportunity to use his sexuality to denigrate his success. That is the issue.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The fact it isn't a very real issue means it isn't a very real issue.'"
The most ridiculous thing wrote on this thread. Positive discrimination isn't a real issue apparently. What an idiot you are. One thing to not think it's happened in the case of Child but to not think it doesn't happen out in the real world away from your land of make believe is absolutely nonsense.
Quote: SmokeyTA "The gay or the back guy or the Asian guys achieving more than you are doing so because they are better than you. Not to tick boxes. That you are failing in whatever way it is that has made you so bitter and such a victim is in spite of you being given every institutional advantage not because you are disadvantaged.
That you think a young gay man in an arena like RL gets it EASIER because of his sexuality just shows how far up your own booty your head is.
There is currently one gay player representing gay people in British pro RL. There are tons of privileged bigoted morons representing you.'"
Ahhh nice try to make it look like I'm bitter for some sort of personal reason. Shame for you that no case of positive discrimination effects me personally. That you think someone can only highlight the issue must be because of some personal reason only shows your foolishness. Would be like me saying you're only defending Child because you are gay also.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "You are prejudiced. You have made an unevidenced homophobic accusation for no other reason than to denigrate and demean a gay person. That is what you have been called out on. That is where you have shown bigotry and homophobia. There is no walking back from what you said and the position you took which was that James child had only achieved what he has as a referee because he is gay. That isn't true. Has no basis in evidenced and is simply an opportunity to use his sexuality to denigrate his success. That is the issue.'"
And yet anybody who reads this thread can go back on it and see what has been said, and call you out for the liar that you are. Nothing more than a raving looney who makes things up to suit his potty agenda. As I said, the likes of you do more harm than good for the hard working people out there who try so hard to eliminate prejudices.
I should highlight the areas of your wild make believe statements, but anybody can see them over the last few pages. I feel sorry for James Child, that his only defence to his incompetence is some keyboard warrior shouting "stop, homophobia". I am sure he is so pleased that you believe he should be in the role because he is gay, rather than whether he is up to the job.
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| Quote: G1 "When and where did James Child publicly announce his sexuality then?'"
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise he had to take out a four-page spread in League Weekly announcing it. It is well known despite him not running to a news desk to make it something you can link to on the Internet.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "The most ridiculous thing wrote on this thread. Positive discrimination isn't a real issue apparently. What an idiot you are. One thing to not think it's happened in the case of Child but to not think it doesn't happen out in the real world away from your land of make believe is absolutely nonsense.
Ahhh nice try to make it look like I'm bitter for some sort of personal reason. Shame for you that no case of positive discrimination effects me personally. That you think someone can only highlight the issue must be because of some personal reason only shows your foolishness. Would be like me saying you're only defending Child because you are gay also.'"
Homophobia and bigotry don't just effect gay people. Like racism it demeans us all and like racism it is up to us all to oppose it.
Like when people with no evidence try to demean and denigrate a person by claiming their success is only because of their sexuality.
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| Quote: Gotcha "And yet anybody who reads this thread can go back on it and see what has been said, and call you out for the liar that you are. Nothing more than a raving looney who makes things up to suit his potty agenda. As I said, the likes of you do more harm than good for the hard working people out there who try so hard to eliminate prejudices.
I should highlight the areas of your wild make believe statements, but anybody can see them over the last few pages. I feel sorry for James Child, that his only defence to his incompetence is some keyboard warrior shouting "stop, homophobia". I am sure he is so pleased that you believe he should be in the role because he is gay, rather than whether he is up to the job.'"
I believe his sexuality has f'ck all to do with his job. The only people who brought up his sexuality were two bigots who used it to demean him and his success
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