I'm not getting defensive, you're definitely confused though because there's just no way that's happened.
If anything then someone from Leeds will have said "we agree to your wage terms, it'll be a done deal if/when your club agrees to transfer terms"

What you're claiming just didn't and wouldn't happen, sorry, and if that's what players have told you then they're either lying or (more likely) too thick to understand what was happening.

With due respect you do not know the Leeds position, unless your posting name is a nom de plume for either GH or BM and something tells me that they wouldn't keep posting on going critical comments against themselves if they were you.

So at best your comments are first hand hearsay from the players concerned but more likely 2nd hand hearsay from someone who was not in the room when the talks took place.

If, as you imply, a contract was offered and that is what the players wanted why didn't the player(s) then sign the contract? The answer is they were not offered a contract because these were just exploratory talks with candidates who were being considered.

Finally may I ask the reason why you always take sides against the Leeds club on almost every issue?

And why on earth would a selling club allow Leeds to speak to their player, a contracted player, without first agreeing to the piece - Leeds could then potentially offer the player a contract that is enough to turn their head and unsettle them - so the player now adamantly wants to move, as it's a substantial upgrade on their earnings, Leeds then fail to come to terms with the club, so the selling club are left with an unsettled player, who wants out to join Leeds and probably holds a grudge against his current club for holding him back and preventing him taking advantage of a lucrative contract..... Seems like a great way to do business on both clubs part..... RIDICULOUS

So this is either - completely made up by the poster to try claim some sort of 'in the know' bragging rights and also have a pop at Leeds...

Or,

The poster has heard a few bits and pieces on the grapevine, has added 2 + 2 and come to 550000...

Or,

Someone has given the poor poster this info as 'gospel' knowing how gullible they are and is now laughing their socks off that not only did the person believe the utter tripe, but has then posted it on the internet and hung his hat on it....

I really hope it's the last one - coz at least someone has had a good giggle out of it...

Why would Hull FC allow one of their better players to discuss terms with a rival SL club?
IMO that question is also the answer I'm afraid

Right back on the second post I made on the subject, I stated that I am not saying Leeds were wrong to pull out.

The fact you see that as a criticism tells me you are relating to it, and in truth can see they have not acted professionally. If you are a club that proclaims to look after players and be loyal, which Leeds have been excellent at, then you do not make false promises, and it is that point that I have continued to make.

That is not taking sides, it's making a moral point. In the case of Clarke it had gone as far as arranging new accommodation.

I would ask the reverse question of you.

Moral?

FFS, give it a rest Gotcha, you're embarrassing yourself.

Because he has requested to leave, he is leaving. Him and the coach do not get on.

I'd hazard a guess at why the coach doesn't get on with him

FFS grow up mate. I know in your profession false promises are a common theme, but for a club that proclaims to be loyal, it smacks in the face of that. Is that theme not something you have continually praised the club on? Bit inconsistent of you now then.

I'm actually quite disappointed we haven't signed Westerman. I think he'd have flourished in our environment, or would have at least had the best opportunity to. He's obviously a talented player but also one who needs a professional environment with standards set on and off the pitch to get the best out of him. Id put Hardaker in that category too.

Having said that, I don't think it's the end of the world either.

As others have said, a decent hooker is all we need, the others can do the rest. We don't need a half back until McGuire retires as we've got Sutcliffe and then Burrow as backup.
At second row I still think we've got a couple of years use out of JJB and Stevie Ward is getting better all the time in addition to Ablett and Delaney who's contributions should never be underestimated.
So a second rower to replace JJB would be nice but not a necessity for a year or 2 in my view.

If we do sign Burgess I can't guarantee that when its announced a bit of wee wont come out.

What are you on about?

But your whole story is critical of the club. You have just accused them again of being unprofessional. You use phrases like "pull out" "proclaims to look after players" "false promises" and "making a moral point" all of which are implied criticism and based solely on hearsay and bar talk. The moral thing for you or them to do is put up or shut up.

It would be if it were true.

But some guy posting Chinese whispers on the Internet and suddenly he thinks supporters should join in with him condemning the clubs actions which happen to be completely unfounded is ridiclous.

Basically what you're saying is everyone should believe you.....just because you say so, and we should judge the club by that say so.

You've mentioned a few times of what you've heard going on in meetings at Leeds, when you you aren't privy to them first hand. Your claim that the Leeds club accepted and owned up that they treated Hardaker incorrectly over his World Cup dismissal was nonsense too.

if we had signed Westerman do you reckon i could get a lift in to work aswell?