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Quote: christopher "Lets have it right though Jim bar Frawley (who in fairness is one of those thats in form) most people were happy with those signings you mention, and I personally still am.

Get some decent forwards in and we’ll look a totally different side.

The mistakes in recruitment were relying on Holroyd as a starting prop snd not adding another big prop.'"


Agree Chris. Though i think a mistake was not having enough cap space to sort it..

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Quote: ArthurClues "
I’m about 38 years of support, for many years I used to go to all the away games. In spite of our usual thumping at Central Park I used to enjoy that particular game. Wigan fans in those days were a decent bunch. The ground to me had a special atmosphere. I am more than happy to continue my support, however the club seems to have acquired a collective madness on the rugby side of things. Looking at some of the latest sub standard players we have signed. The phrase due diligence springs to mind, obviously not applicable in most cases. Anyway looking forward to the Wigan match. Had us down for a win, highly unlikely now due to our prop shortage. Still one can live in hope.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "
Yes. Central Park was a great ground. Used to love going to test matches there. Wigan has always been my favourite fixture but will be going with a queasy feeling on Saturday.

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Due diligence is absolutely correct.
Whoever identified the players presumably Smith. Then who is it who runs the rule over them to make sure they are what we require or once the coach says get me so and so it`s down to GH to negotiate the contract?
McDonnel like what`s been said is probably the only one to come out with any credit.
Bentley would go ok with a bigger pack but not with what we have now.
Martin will be a miss more so for his 80% kicking success.
So we now need to find a kicker that isn`t Miller!
With the players we currently have in our squad and the length of some of their contracts I doubt we will see us in the top 4 for another 3 years even with BA.

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Quote: christopher "Might nit be popular but Ive no issue with Donna being around - he will be on a small wage and he is the type of player that can help drive attitudes and standards.

Lisone is a luxury player and one that we cannot afford at the moment.

Something jus isn't right with the whole Holroyd thing IMO, hasn't he had a couple of scrapes with players in the past - I'm just not sure if his attitude is where it needs to be, but that's just speculation on my part. Which would be a shame as he does have potential.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the pack totally overhauled in the off season, Mike is carrying them and has for a couple of seasons, he needs help urgently.'"

Would you look to exit Lisone if the club do decide to pay off contracted players? On Saturday I would have willingly lit the fuse that would have shot him out of a very large cannon, but he does offer a lot more than Sangare (not hard) and the more props we try and get the harder it will be to get good ones. No easy answers.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Would you look to exit Lisone if the club do decide to pay off contracted players? On Saturday I would have willingly lit the fuse that would have shot him out of a very large cannon, but he does offer a lot more than Sangare (not hard) and the more props we try and get the harder it will be to get good ones. No easy answers.'"


If we're looking at moving contracted players on I'd look at moving Sangare on before Lisone, who as you say can actually add something. We need IMO two extra decent starting grade props minimum.

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Paying off contracts still counts on the cap, doesn't it?

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Quote: Jack Burton "Paying off contracts still counts on the cap, doesn't it?'"


Not sure to be honest, players do leave mid contract, we signed Croft , Ackers and Momirosvki all on contract so there must be a way round it

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Quote: christopher "Not sure to be honest, players do leave mid contract, we signed Croft , Ackers and Momirosvki all on contract so there must be a way round it'"

Don't think they do. If they did Hull would be 5 times over the cap along with Catalans. But the catch is that if you end up subsidising their salary at another club, it does. It's an expensive business any way you look at it.

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When do the contracts end for the likes of:
Holroyd, Lisone, Sangare, Goudemand, Bentley, Momorovski, Frawley.

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Quote: chapylad "When do the contracts end for the likes of
All up at the end of next season I think

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Quote: Neruda "All up at the end of next season I think'"


Think Momorosvki was 3 years wasn’t it same as Miller?

Edited to add, no it was two

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Quote: Neruda "All up at the end of next season I think'"


Still time to give Sangare another extension then icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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It's a shame Sangare hasn't worked.

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I’d send Momorovski packing personally. Waste of a quota spot. Surely we can do better there from the uk or academy

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