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| Quote: rhintintin "But it doesn't work. You could normalise 'faggot' all you want, but it still wouldn't make it any less offensive if some nice person screamed it at a gay couple in the street. All the normalisation does is offer some form of defence to the morons would would scream abuse at people in the street for being different to them. It desensitises others
If someone in the street asked you how much your wife charged for anal would you punch them in the face?
If they did that when your wife was present would you punch them?
If Hardaker had asked that question of an opponent and was caught on camera would he deserve a 5 match ban?
Is it only incidents caught on camera that are punishable? If players are able to cite opponents who've abused them what are you going to do for the next 5 weeks when we don't have any players left to play?
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "If someone in the street asked you how much your wife charged for anal would you punch them in the face?
If they did that when your wife was present would you punch them?
If Hardaker had asked that question of an opponent and was caught on camera would he deserve a 5 match ban?
Is it only incidents caught on camera that are punishable? If players are able to cite opponents who've abused them what are you going to do for the next 5 weeks when we don't have any players left to play?'"
That one thing about this incident. James Child said he was offended by the word, thus reported it. Now he's been a referee for a fair few years now....you honestly don't think he heard that word of another gay slur uttered on the pitch over the years? I very much doubt it.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "If someone in the street asked you how much your wife charged for anal would you punch them in the face?
If they did that when your wife was present would you punch them?
If Hardaker had asked that question of an opponent and was caught on camera would he deserve a 5 match ban?
Is it only incidents caught on camera that are punishable? If players are able to cite opponents who've abused them what are you going to do for the next 5 weeks when we don't have any players left to play?'"
I have genuinely no idea what point you're trying to make here.
As for being caught on camera, yes, to be punishable the incident has to be given some sort of credibility from an independent source. Otherwise you could just make any old rubbish up and get someone banned.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "That one thing about this incident. James Child said he was offended by the word, thus reported it. Now he's been a referee for a fair few years now....you honestly don't think he heard that word of another gay slur uttered on the pitch over the years? I very much doubt it.'"
If he heard the slur, saw who made it, the question has to be asked why he didn't act on it at that time.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "If he heard the slur, saw who made it, the question has to be asked why he didn't act on it at that time.'"
Exactly, it's more than a bit iffy that he did nothing on the field of play. Not even a telling off or talking to saying to cut that type of language out.
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| Just been out with wife after work. Picked her up at work, at a blue chip insurance company.
They did a World Cup sweepstake at work. And decorated their desks accordingley.
The guy with Uruguay, had over his desk the country spelled out with the letters on single A4 pages. Except someone took a couple of the U's. Not the first one.
He wasn't happy.
Turns out the person that did it is homosexual, and very open about it. Did it for a laugh. Therefore everyone just laughed.
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| But still you are missing the point. Hardaker wasn't having a laugh with a few mates in the office he was INSULTING someone.
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| Quote: jools "But still you are missing the point. Hardaker wasn't having a laugh with a few mates in the office he was INSULTING someone.'"
Actually, I think you are missing the point. Had the countries picked being the other way round, and the other gentleman did it, everything is ok?
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| The only thing that offends me on this thread is Gotcha's inability to differentiate between the words 'been' and 'being'.
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| Quote: Wheels "The only thing that offends me on this thread is Gotcha's inability to differentiate between the words 'been' and 'being'.'"
Now your been unfair could of being many other grammatical issue's.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Now your been unfair could of being many other grammatical issue's.
Stop it. I'm getting twitchy...
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| It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
Such languedge is just unacceptable!!
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
Have you reported it to the club?
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
You weren't with that silly old man who wears the bejewelled middle eastern type hat were you. He made a right prat of himself stood there waving two lots of fingers in the air at the Southstand and mouthing F off when Udders scored. A man of his age should really know better. I'm not surprised parents won't let their kids go to huddersfield games and their crowds are so low.
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