The video ref and lino had shockers surely the wingers legs were on the floor over the touch line when he passes the ball?
Still I thought we were second best.
Trueman bosses the game in the fist half and the wakey props outplayed ours.

All fair points nothing much to disagree with there.
Think Wakey will go well this season, expected so much more from our lot.

He is a high quality coach, nothing to blame now but the poor quality players. Too many still not good enough and never will be.
Connor Newman Frawley Ackers Bentley Smith just the tip of the iceberg, connor will get a right hounding this season unless he improves massively.

The whole 'culture' thing at Leeds just seems so forced and not authentic I think thats a big problem, that they're trying to create something thats very cliche and corporate.

Following Leeds (even from your sofa) has become a pretty depressing pastime. With way more resources than petty much every other club they keep getting it wrong. Think I'm logging out for my own health til signs are we might see a return to better days..

Not really blaming him, just disappointed with the performance, if he can't get a tune out of these players, not sure who could.

I expected a lot more too, especially after Boxing Day and the Wigan friendly, coupled with Brad Arthur as your coach. I just believe you have some incredibly overrated players ie Bentley, Newman and Connor. Your team will forever be compared to the glory days that seem a long time ago now. What’s happening with you guys is eerily similar to Manchester Utd, trying to buy success…… well it’s either that or you just got outplayed by us who evidently are decent and have a boat load of confidence coming up from the championship (like Leigh did) and performed really well.

Merlin The Wizard ? I think we’ve got to accept nobody can change the physical profile or inherent poor decision making of the vast majority of this squad. We may have a chance with the likes of Gannon and Lumb, but what you see is what you get basically with the rest of them. Motivation should never be an area for massive improvement at this level, the players should have been out of the door ages ago if they were lacking in that department. Maybe all the temporary rebuilds have got us all believing that bringing in new mediocre players as a replacement for other mediocre players will somehow work.

The trying to buy success thing is something all sides with the resource to do so try. Wakey included these days. Sometimes the signings turn out well, sometimes not. Worse case, you're stuck with an iffy player 3 years max, probably less, who you then replace. Of far greater consequence is average quality home grown retained for multiple years. Obviously they help generate the culture but if they're mediocre talents then results will reflect this.

I don’t agree. There’s a difference in trying to buy success and trying to create a culture to have prolonged sustainable success. Powell and Ste Mills have made it no secret the number one thing they look at when they sign a player is his personality. We are with the new backing starting to create a top culture to then hopefully target trophies within the next 5 years. Leeds are targeting trophies now instead of getting their house in order. Having the likes of Connor, Bentley and Newman who are well known to be marmite characters won’t help this. These types of players would have been no where near the Leeds team of old. You’re losing your identity and we are creating a new one for us.

Good posting, certainly food for thought.

It's one game. Let's not get ahead of oursens. Wakey will go well. Leeds will go well.

Agreed, I will reserve judgement until we are seven or eight games into the season. I have mentioned before ,that the Arthur situation isn’t perfect. But we were in dire straits. So Brad was the only realistic option. Our pack yesterday was a huge disappointment, made worse by the fact wakey had a few forwards missing. First half was disastrous, they ran us ragged, three quarters defence absolutely woeful. Wakefield played some good rugby drove the ball up the middle. Then moved it wide very quickly. Quite simple but effective.