He probably is out of touch with the modern game.,though only in as far as Leeds is one of the few clubs not losing money hand over fist. Understandable that he wouldn't take the short-term view of his counterparts.

maybe you need to quite this forum your position is untenable, you come on here and think you are the epitome of wisdom on all things RL. but don't no half you think you do. so what if Hetherington made a stand against the other chairmen, quite clearly is was the 3 fat cats who bullied the other chairmen in to their way of thinking as the lesser clubs are so desperate with there poor crowds to lose any sky money. its easy to bully your agenda onto desperate week men, its much harder to make the stand against it.

Shut up you big tart. What a silly post.

The rest of the game have voted this. All the media who have an interest had the same opinion. Hetheringtons position was self interest, and nothing more here.

You might well have had a point had other clubs without self interest backed him, but they didn’t. The whole game has a different view. And there may well have been a couple of clubs bullied, but not with the size of majority. Even the community game voted agains GH View, that tells you all you need to know about your own view.

If GH had have had the games interest he should have backed the changes but with conditions of his own. We should have had a 14 team top league, without loop fixtures, and he could hav3 led that. But anything is an improvement on the ridiculous eights.

i don't support Gh views at all, but i don't support your view that he should quite just for not being rail roaded into into by other club chairman, and has the rest of the clubs at lower level where told accept it or else. he probably was right to make a stand. personally glad to see back of 8's and i actually agree with you 14 teams and not loop fixtures should have been way to go.

What is the structure 14 team SL? If so does that mean the top 6 of middle eights are in?

so when do we find out which teams voted Yes and which No

It was a secret ballot

We don't have the quality to run 14 teams.

Or 12 teams for that matter. Repeat fixtures are ridiculous though.

All the SL clubs bar Leeds voted for it.

Ahh all the chelping from Lenighan & co about uncertain fixtures so the brains trust cime up with Loop fixtures.
Guess what nobody knows what those loop fixtures will be either.
Im happy with top 5 but id hoped to see the 1 up 1 down extended to 2nd top Championship v 2nd Bottom SL for the MPG.
I think a 14 team SL would be better than loop fixtures & whatever GH thinks a reserve league is a must imo.

14 team SL needs to be put into place in next 2 to 3 years. Give clubs time to build. Need to find a way to get money invested in the game.

GH is our greatest ever chairman but he is wrong on this but it's wrong to say he should go.

So because other teams, who are all much more desperate for cash and security than Leeds because their businesses are generally not well run, voted for something, and Leeds didn't, Hetherington should quit.

If you don't vote for something and everyone else does that's an embarrassment in Gotchaland apparently.

Even when it's something which isn't really that consequential like a league format (which it is clear has been an excuse from all those non-performing club bosses as to why their clubs were losing crowds and money hand over fist).

So some great thinking there from Gotcha: if you don't go with the flow you should resign. Cos all those who voted yes have proven themselves to be visionary forward thinkers. And their club level incompetencey will all be solved by bringing back the competition structure from a decade ago and the play off structure from two decades ago.

Leeds are the biggest club in the game. Other than maybe Warrington we are the only financially stable English Super League club. Our potential relegation had the scope to single handedly knock millions off the value of the next TV contract. Our club is run to break even because the owner isn't looking for a return. Almost uniquely we can take a long view. If the people running other clubs don't agree that's fine. But bending over, voting against what you believe is right for the whole sport, voting to agree with some short termist grasping chancers just to avoid being in a minority would be the ultimate embarrassment.

The reserve team I agree on, not because Hetherington's approach is wrong in practice but because of the destructive effect it has on the league below in using dual reg for a de facto reserve teams.

But the excuses being made that the 8s is the root of all problems is laughable. Is it too much jeopardy for too many SL teams? Possibly. But it's enlivened that end of the table and the championship. On the other hand the short notice of fixtures is a definite challenge so it has its weaknesses. But changing format isn't going to suddenly make viable all those clubs which aren't viable. Grasping a bit more money at the same time would have, slightly, but that seems to have been fought off.

Going all in to save the 8s is probably not what I'd have bothered with if I were running Leeds as, frankly, it doesn't really make much difference to the end of the table we generally swim in. But standing up for the interests of the rest of the game is something I do applaud Hetherington for.