You're wasting your time. You cannot educate pork.

As much as it pains me to dispute anything negative about the insidious individual Pryce, the 2005 Grand Final would, sadly, like to disagree with you. Mind, that was five years ago and it was under Noble's masterstroke of playing him on the wing giving him freedom to drift in and out of the game when he wanted. Like he does nowadays, though mainly he drifts out of them.

Sorry about this but it was Buderus who passed to Hall.

You were trying to be ironic but actually stated a fact which supports the point you were taking issue with. Epic fail.

Bailey has played international rugby and is one of the best props in the league. I appreciate you won't share that opinion but many who know a bit more about rugby than you would disagree.

Ablett is one of the first names on our team sheet and, IMO, may well go on to international honours. He is far from a plodder.

Kirke aspires to be a plodder.

I agree. Only an idiot would say that because it's gibberish. Another epic fail.

If I were you I'd simply type your opinions and steer clear of attempting humour, inflection, irony or sarcasm. They appear to be beyond your reach.

Ablett IMO is the first 2nd rower on the team sheet.

I seriously can't believe some of the stuff I've read on here so far. Every board has idiotic posters, but this Chief Scrote feller can't be serious? Fair enough, you don't have to think every Leeds player is a superstar, but to just make stuff up to try and prove your invalid argument, well, its just embarrassing.

I know

Which ever way you look at it it's another Leeds Saints game that ends with scouser's moaning like little girls.

On point 1, my memories of the 2005 final are not that great and I've never watched the game since. However, my recollection of the game was that we were simply out gunned up front and Pryce scored a crucial try of the back of that dominance. I certainly wouldn't describe his performance as "commanding" or as "taking the game by the scruff of the kneck". Still, we all have our opinion and providing it doesn't belong to the Scouse Dib Dobber, I'm prepared to respect anyone who expresses one intelligently.

On point 2, my eyesight isn't that great so I am happy to stand corrected. Either way, without the other assist we lose.

Not my opinion on Pryce in the 2005 Grand Final win V Leeds just a recollection that he was awarded the Harry Sunderland Trophy that day.

About Pryce, for mine he was the next Hanley. Had he had the same temperament and dedication he would be the best loose forward in the world right now. Instead we get a stand-off who looks fantastic in a winning team, and you barely see him in a losing team

He has all the qualities you would want, he just doesnt seem to have the ethic that to take it to the next level. He has the skills, he has the size and strength, but he epotmises whats wrong with british RL, world class until he is really tested

i think coming through a bradford may have been the worst thing for him. If he cam through at a lower side i think we would see a very different player

To be fair not many half backs look good in a losing team.

Wouldn't have been the first MOM to be granted to an undeserving show pony and certainly not the last. Having said that, I'm not going to argue too much about it, I went to the game and never really gave the 80 minutes much thought thereafter.

In any event, if one great game is the best a talented player can muster out a ten year carreer with two of, if not the two, strongest sides in the super league era, then I feel confident in my original assessment.

Again I find myself in the unpleasant position of defending Pryce but he's done much more than the one game. In fact, in the Tri Nation series (the "I prefer Blackpool Beach) he played very well at the op level.

I do think he's gone alarmingly downhill since about 2008 which may co-incide with the ageing and departure of the real half back along side him, Long. Nowadays, he rarely dominates a big game against big opposition. He may trample all over the likes of Salford and cas every now again the league, getting Saints fans all excited but when it really matters he usually found wanting. The International number 6 jersey used to be a battle between Pryce and McGuire. Now Pryce isn't even mentioned. It's all about Tomkins trying to take McGuire's jersey.

A lot of people think Pryce is an unreliable No6 and a bit of a flat track bully and I agree pretty much. It was this reason that Noble thought that recruiting Harris would provide a bit more stability and reliability at the Bulls!

I've always seen Pryce as a much better centre. Here's he's not needed to organise and gets a bit more space. Apparently though he always wanted to play stand off...