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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "Yes, and we all know how much Leeds prefer wet conditions for the big games too - I'm surprised no-one has trotted out this as an excuse for how poor we've been this year
It's still all down to the floods in Dec 2015 at the training ground. !
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| Quote: Homer Simpson "It's still all down to the floods in Dec 2015 at the training ground. !'"
No it was the Kiwi money match or was it SPOTY or was it injuries
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| Quote: christopher "Now I know he's not had a very good run of injuries but does anyone else think its strange he's been out with concussion for longer than normal - I'm not suggesting anything sinister by the way just thinking he is being given a proper chance to recover to start the M8s? I think he's a bigger miss for us than some think, he is aggressive and hits hard and runs hard which we are sorely lacking, probably why he's always out?'"
Burrow had a patch where he got a lot of concussions and that was looking pretty seriously like ending his career for a while. It can be bad luck, and I think you are right, they might be just giving him a proper chance to recover and not risk it getting any worse.
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| Apparently he was fit to return last week but then got ill. Due back this week.
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| That would be good news if true.
Put him at stand off and get Ablett back into the pack.
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| Last week (and for most of the season) we played without a standoff. We have very limited threat at the moment any team that can defend will do well against us, so if we are going to persist with a forward in the number 6 position (playing like a second loose forward) better that it's a quicker one like Stevie rather than a slower one like Carl.
If we want someone who can at least masquerade as a ball player, we should play Cuthbertson as a second pivot instead of an offloading forward, but if we do this then we definitely need to up our tackle effectiveness as we will put some ball down.
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| When the club the size of Leeds are unable to field two specialist half backs something is fundamentally wrong with the squad make up and the progress of junior development.
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| I agree. When we had Ablett at HB last weekend. It's exactly what I said - how has it come to this?
It's serious neglect.
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| It is, and its down to continuing to back the likes of Moon, Sutcliffe and Lilley for too long. Moon has played oodles of games at 6 and delivered zilch in terms of playmaking. Sutcliffe got found wanting in 2016 but has continued to be seen as some kind of backup, and Lilley has also played 40+ games.
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| We got away with Moon at HB in 17. The club should have signed two HBs then - not just Myler.
Pointless going on about our recruitment. It can drive you mad when you think how little quality we've added to the side
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| Quote: Bang "We got away with Moon at HB in 17. The club should have signed two HBs then - not just Myler.
Pointless going on about our recruitment. It can drive you mad when you think how little quality we've added to the side'"
Spot on, the squad has become weaker season by season. To be honest we are a shambles at the moment. A mixture of players who are not good enough, players who are retiring or should be. Plus players who are leaving the club, not forgetting players who seem to be forever injured. Looking on the bright side we will have 2 magnificent stands.
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| One of the common threads with the disintegration of so-called 'Champion' teams here in Oz (both AFL and NRL) is keeping players on too long and overvaluing bit-part players who could have been replaced by players of similar ability without making any difference to the team. In the end you have a team with a hugely unbalanced salary cap due to back-ending deals or players on long-term deals who are no longer up to the standards their wages demand. All of a sudden you're wondering how on earth the team can be so bad and yet be paying the same in total as other teams who leapfrog past.
To be fair part of the problem is the salary cap itself. But part of it is just taking your eye off the ball. We as a club gave up on serious youth development, and yet if that was all we'd kept investing in we wouldn't be in the state we are now as we'd doubtless have some far better players in their early 20s than we do now.
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| What would be realistic regarding academy products?
One player every year who is first team quality? One every two years?
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| I'd say we should be able to produce 1 or 2 squad quality players every year, perhaps one of them is starting first team quality after 3 years in the environment. If we are producing more than 1 top quality player every 3 or 4 years then we are doing really well.
Of course part of the benefit you get in bringing in a lot of younger players at the same time is they've played together so long there is an understanding between them. This is what we got when we introduced the golden generation. You need the players and the timing for that to work, and that's very difficult to achieve.
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| At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious. I would assume the club has assessed the situations/ incidents in which Stevie is being injured. Eg is he first man in the tackle, is Stevie’s position going into the tackle wrong. Quite obviously he can’t carry on being repeatedly concussed.
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