Midgets and Saints were garbage and Catalan were playing poor and had as many men as us out , Cas were hardly able to put a team out , we were terrible against Widnes and Wigan and only decent performances have been against Wire and 1st half versus Cowboys . Dress it up how you like but its not good enough . Can it be turned round , yes it can , but not with Burrow as playmaker and not with ridiculous selections by the coach

I'm with ploinerrhino

Increased quantity doesn't mean increased quality though.

we are currently 7 games into the sl season and we already have 3 separate threads regarding our coach or getting a new coach on southstander
due to our clubs poor start to the season and the fact that we currently don't look like being top dogs in super league this season has certainly fuelled the fires of our resident knee jerking posters,some of whom must surely have only known of our clubs successful period since 2004-2015

maybe this season will eventually prove to be a transitional season and that we will not win any silverware
didn't every sl club like wigan,saints.wolves etc etc all go through that last season?

imo there's f hall to worry about from what ive seen thus far in sl and plenty of sides will be fancying their chances of bringing a trophy or two home come the seasons end

lets get behind the side and keep a positive perspective on things as im sure that we will be in the mix when the trophies are handed out,just like wigan.saints,wolves etc etc were last season

Much better sides than this our current team have travelled to Wheldon Road to play much worse sides than the current Cas crop and have taken much bigger beatings than we did on Thursday. Calm down everybody, we've come off the most successful season of the Super League era and 2016 was never going to be smooth. Let's have a little patience, some of us are living up to the Whinos moniker many give us...

So what difference will a new coach make? We still won't have a decent half back

I thought the calls for new coach were for the future?

Keinhorst is such an underrated player, he always does a job when he comes on at second row or centre, I cant believe he played less than 20 mins against cas unless he still has a problem with his calf
Baldwinson needs a shot, young player of the year in the championship last year but has barley played for us? He is gonna become the next in the long line of 'what ifs' unless this changes

You've just won the treble and now some are calling for the coaches head this early in your "transition" period. Spoilt brats come to mind.

That isn't the case at all only a select few on here have suggested the club need to make a change now. The majority believe Mac has at least earned this years grace whatever the outcome and there is little doubt he will anyway so its a pointless thread really.

You are right on the spoilt brat bit though, we have been very fortunate for a lot of years now and there are probably a few whiners on here now who were not watching pre SL where this club only had a Yorkshire cup to shout about the decade leading up to 95.

Some of the more hysterical posters do need to get things in perspective. We are not in Brussels or Paris or Ankara which is really serious! This is only a game and like all sport you have periods where things do not go your way no matter what you try. Did you really think that we could lose key players like Sinfield and JP without having some problems?

Attempts were made to replace JP's workload with forward signings but his leadership is still missed. However the powers that be decided not to sign a half back play maker who could kick to try and replace Sinfield's role in the side, a decision that was largely accepted by the SS critics. However to expect McGuire to play a whole season without injury was risky and to expect young Sutcliffe and Lilley to fulfill this vital pivot position when neither had shown anything other than promise has been proven to be foolish IMO.

When McGuire was injured in the first game of the season and in the second further injuries to Briscoe, Ablett and Golding on top of long termers Ward & JJB plus Falloon in preseason. So we were faced with something of a handicap. Since then we have had suspensions and further injuries and senior players way out of form (Hall & Hardaker, ) while others are not at their best or not fully fit and three new players to settle in.

So in what was always going to be the big transition season we started badly and it has got worse. However the side will improve and injured players will return. We should not expect to win silverware with such a transition to cope with. Relax...it can now only get better!

And beaten by a Wakefield team with 6 players missing.

You remind me of the Wire after Briers and Morley left, rudderless and could have all the ball and no clue how to cross the line. It takes time to replace great players and you can't win something every year, not time to be ringing the Samaritans yet

The majority arnt. Just those funny individuals (and their proxy accounts) trying to whip up some out of date troll agenda.