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Quote: WF Rhino "He said that some blokes will not be fully fit but will be ready to play. That is a bit of a vague statement and could mean that some players wont have done much during preseason or it could mean some will be carrying minor injuries that could be played through.'"


It will be the former. It's not like the game is a week or two away. I doubt that with over 8 weeks to go until that first game he can be certain that someone will still have a minor injury and will be playing that game.

Basically what he should've said is that everyone looks like they'll be fine for the start of the season* but some won't have had as much preseason as others as they've been recovering from injuries during the offseason.

*I'd guess he forgot about Galloway who it was already well known wouldn't be ready for the start of the season.

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A clear-cut contender for the earliest excuse of the year award. In this regard at least we are one step ahead of the opposition icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "Nearly ruined? Nice exaggeration. I forgot that every other coach only ever sends out 17 players who are fully fit and fresh as daisies every week.

Man management so sh#*e that he's managed to get the team off the floor three times at various stages of the 2011/2012/2015 seasons to win a GF. Let me guess it was all Sinfield that.'"

Yes nearly ruined by playing him on 1 decent leg in a struggling team & dont give it was a worthwhile gamble the kid was getting slated on here & at games.
His man management is that great he repeatedly picks players injured & not replaces them during games asap ,only using 16 players in games & ignoring others who are fit and playing well on dual reg.
In terms of having 17 fully fit players he had plenty of chances to rest injured players & ignored it.
As for our success is it purely down to him or as by his own admittence on numerous occassions just as much the influence JP & Sinfied had in that team lets be straight he (Mc.D) has hardly inspired since their departure.
But then again kiwi game floods injuries etc etc although we did improve beating a Wigan team missing 9/10 players Hull FC who btw weren't all that when we played em then we have the middle 8's against 3 poor SL teams 1 of which beat us & 4 Championship clubs hardly inspires going forward.
The only bright spots were Segeyaro( now gone) & Youngsters getting enforced gametime but personally i dont trust him to develop them.
Hopefully we win summat & have a great season either way i hope he's gone at the end of the year.

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Quote: Clearwing "Nearly ruined is a bit OTT.
I reckon JP must have been ruined by about 2010 if so. Mind you, he'd probably agree You can hardly compare anyone with a player who lets be honest is a 1 of a kind in that regard.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "You can hardly compare anyone with a player who lets be honest is a 1 of a kind in that regard.'"


Fair point though Sutty isn't the first to have played injured and jabbed. As a player he strikes me as being extremely tough mentally, not the kind to wilt because the fans get on his back. Under the circs, I'd probably agree that playing him wasn't the wisest; then again, if we'd won another treble I wouldn't have given it a thought. Just glad I don't have to make that call tbh.

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Quote: Clearwing "Fair point though Sutty isn't the first to have played injured and jabbed. As a player he strikes me as being extremely tough mentally, not the kind to wilt because the fans get on his back. Under the circs, I'd probably agree that playing him wasn't the wisest; then again, if we'd won another treble I wouldn't have given it a thought. Just glad I don't have to make that call tbh.'"

Playing him so early was ridiculous imo at least give him 4/6weeks continuous rehab then maybe a couple of short stinys on dual reg.
Don't forget it wasn't a big semi-final or final or a jabbed up knock it was a 6mth injury that can end careers.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Don't forget it wasn't a big semi-final or final or a jabbed up knock it was a 6mth injury that can end careers.'"


Thought he was out for longer tbh. I'll have to take your word for his condition and fitness on his return as I don't know the details. Definitely a reckless decision to bring him back if your facts are correct.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Playing him so early was ridiculous imo at least give him 4/6weeks continuous rehab then maybe a couple of short stinys on dual reg.
Don't forget it wasn't a big semi-final or final or a jabbed up knock it was a 6mth injury that can end careers.'"


Probably was a result of our ridiculously small squad last year, something which seems to have been recognised and at least partially fixed.

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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "Probably was a result of our ridiculously small squad last year, something which seems to have been recognised and at least partially fixed.'"


In what way? So far we have brought in two rookies from the championship who have been sent back there with Fev, so its highly unlikely they will be trusted next year at least.In the meantime we have lost Hardaker and Segeyaro. Will be interesting to see how he uses Baldwinson next year.he had the perfect opportunity to use him and get him game time with all the injuries and out of form forwards this season, yet he was overlooked completely.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "In what way? So far we have brought in two rookies from the championship who have been sent back there with Fev, so its highly unlikely they will be trusted next year at least.In the meantime we have lost Hardaker and Segeyaro. Will be interesting to see how he uses Baldwinson next year.he had the perfect opportunity to use him and get him game time with all the injuries and out of form forwards this season, yet he was overlooked completely.'"


The two signings are depth signings. We have expanded our first team squad from the paper thin 25 to a seemingly normal in terms of SL 30. At the very least it looks like we have attempted to address the problem, though I agree it is far from perfect.

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Also agree that Baldwinson should have got more of a look in, but also didn't realise he's only 21/22. If we go off the previous example of Singo he will start picking up games but likely won't be a regular until 23/24. It's just Macs MO.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Yes nearly ruined by playing him on 1 decent leg in a struggling team & dont give it was a worthwhile gamble the kid was getting slated on here & at games.'"


Oh no, he was getting slated on an Internet forum....better not pick him them.

In fact let's not pick any player who gets criticised on here and we'll have nobody left to pick, even in the years we were winning.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Oh no, he was getting slated on an Internet forum....better not pick him them.

In fact let's not pick any player who gets criticised on here and we'll have nobody left to pick, even in the years we were winning.'"

That was a small part of the overall point id rather we didnt select someone CLEARLY not fit not anywhere near especially given the overall situation but your pathetic sarcastic response just highlights yer ignorance when blindly defending this Coach. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "That was a small part of the overall point id rather we didnt select someone CLEARLY not fit not anywhere near especially given the overall situation but your pathetic sarcastic response just highlights yer ignorance when blindly defending this Coach.
My post clearly highlights how ridiculous it was to try and add more weight to the damning decision to play Sutcliffe by thinking him getting slated on here is in any way relevant.

Were you in involved in all the medical discussions between the coaching and medical staff with regards to Sutcliffe to be able to tell us that it's solely on McDermott? You clearly have a soft spot for Sutcliffe and never have liked it when others have written off, most likely you have some connection to him that clouds your views in issues regarding him.

Players have to play hurt at times, that's just how the sport goes. We were missing guys that could've played instead so if somebody had to go out jabbed up or strapped up that's just the nature of the game, let's not pretend no other coach is sending out guys with jabs etc that could be better off not playing. Happens all over the league but the way some whine about it you'd think McDermott was the only one who did it. Hypocrisy about the whole situation is that when the likes of Hall, Briscoe, McGuire etc. weren't getting rushed back in near the end end part of the regular season those players got slated for not trying their hardest to get back out there as quickly as possible and people were questioning their desire to get back and help the team. Just another perfect example of how some of the fan base can always find fault and complain either way the club does something, even when it contradicts the early argument they had. "We shouldn't rush players back"....."why aren't the players rushing back to play & help out when we're struggling"

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