Newman starting in the centres for Fev today. Ormondroyd on the bench.

Lilley not even in the Leigh 19 this week. Injured or just not selected?

When I think of a big club in sports, I think of clubs like New England Patriots, Real Madrid, Manchester Utd, L.A Lakers..... let’s be honest mate, nobody south of Derby or north of York has a clue who Leeds Rhinos are.

Surely that logic was perfectly understandable . We'd lost 3 times to hull and beat you numerous times (fairly comfortably). Me personally I was very split and very nervous watching your semi as I know certain runs always come to an end. A lot of fans thought our best chance was playing you in the final, that isn't corky it just is what it is. We could have played widnes in the grand final and the slop we served up thst day would have seen us beaten by them too.

being honest I wouldn't say nobody

The majority of Cas fans were convinced that all they had to do was turn up to be crowned champions, and the grand final was nothing more than a formality and victory procession, some were wanting the trophy hamded to them halfway through the season they were so cocky, so don’t say they were not cocky, their already starting again this year saying nobody can beat them this year after a good first 20 minutes on Friday and that they simplely took the foot off the gas on friday as it was too easy, and they are not joking they believe it.

As for the grand final all I've heard from Cas fans is we only won because they simply played bad and it was just a lucky fluke win, you got Completely owned and dominated when it really mattered by a superior side. cas fans are cocky and arrogant but have done nothing of note to justify it.

CHAMPIONS 7 Years out of 11 in a salary cap sport ain't too bad!

Castleford simply didn't peak towards the end of the season, as Champions must do. Hull, Saints and ourselves did. If Hull or Saints had played you at Old Trafford, I think they'd be Champions now.

As it is, it's us. Again.

Most countries in the world, the people there wouldn’t know what you are talking about with New England Patriots, and LA Lakers. Football clubs yes, as most countries have interest in it.

I am in South Africa a lot, and whenever I mention Rugby League and UK, many have turned around and said Leeds Rhinos. Kind of puts that little argument of yours on a different basis. Go above York here, as you said, and anyone heard of rugby league you will find Leeds will be the first side they mention.

I had a spell in the Carnegie and sat near a family who travelled down from the north east and they had the accents too

Heard of them, couldn't tell you what sport they play

Yeah the new york yankees are bigger aswel, but theyre as equally irrelevant here as all the teams you mention.

We'r on a rugby league forum and in rugby league leeds are one of the biggest...to be honest pal, that response is pretty weak, i cant believe you actually posted it, in a round about way your agreeing with me, having to resort to using nfl,nba and footy teams to belittle leeds suggests that you also think leeds are one of the biggest clubs in rugby league.

If Adrian vowles ultimate aim was to play in the super bowl, then you may have a point, but im pretty sure his sporting ambition will of ed around rugby.

Probably the week before the semi final when you got Hammered at home by Hull FC which was probably just the sort of game that you needed before the play off's begin to get you battle hardened and also against a tough physical side is it not,or had the Tigers already shot their bolt by then and had ultimately reached their peak but were sadly gone?
especially against a side that were supposedly hardly peaking

Hull FC were also a side that would push the Rhinos close in the semi's only a week later, so If that result didn't give the Tigers the kick up the backside that you needed then I don't know what would have?
TBH your run in from round 27 looked to be going according to plan would you not agree?
Whereas our run in had 2 blow out scorelines prior to our semi final v Hull FC,so judging by your theory our last tough game before the GF play offs was 2 weeks prior to when your last tough game was, so I'm not sure what your getting at?
If any side was going into the play offs "under done" then surely that would have been the Rhinos would it not rather than the Tigers?
So IMO your theory is a great misconception that has ultimately turned into an excuse.


Round 30 games
Tigers 16 Hull FC 48
Giants 12 Rhinos 36

Round 29 Games
Wigan 20 Tigers 38
Rhinos 44 Salford 2


Round 28 Games
Tigers 38 Rhinos 24


Round 27 Games
Giants 16 Tigers 24
Rhinos 38 Hull FC 26

Newman scored and went pretty well according to some fev fans