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Quote: dboy "How did you achieve a teaching degree without an understanding of how people learn???

When deciding who is attack/defence, the VR is looking at the status of the play, at the point that play can no longer develop legally i.e. is dead.

In this instance, Wire knock-on (play on), Leeds knock-on (play is dead) - Wire

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "Yes, as does having the video referee coming from Warrington itself ....

See also Russell "Penalty try, Russell ... Your call" Smith'"



You are not seriously blaming the match officials' are you???

We were only arguing about the terminology for the restart...you've gone too far...too far!

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Quote: dboy "You are not seriously blaming the match officials' are you???

We were only arguing about the terminology for the restart...you've gone too far...too far!'"


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Quote: Andy R "Put me out of my misery then!!!'"


The Game: Leeds V Hull SL 17 Round 20
Date: 6th July 2012
Ground: Headingley
Referee: Tim Roby
Video Referee: Ian Smith

Detail: Players: Danny McGuire kicked long downfield and leads the kick chase with Kevin Sinfield and Carl Ablett in support. Tom Briscoe returns the ball but is met firmly by McGuire, the ball is spilled by Briscoe. McGuire attempts to gather but only succeeds in nudging the ball forward on the ground where Sinfield - stood just ahead of McGuire and ball - picks up and runs the final ten metres to touchdown after evading Ryan McGoldrick's attempted tackle on the line.

Detail: Officials: The in-game clock stops at 24:27, referee Tim Roby calls zero tackle and asks the video referee to check for a Leeds knock on after Hull lose ball on impact and for the grounding. Video referee Ian Smith checks for the double knock on (doesn't need to check the grounding) makes the decision after 1 minute 22 seconds of deliberation between himself and the rulebook.

Outcome: NO TRY ..... SCRUM ATTACK

Obviously

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Quote: tvoc "The Game

Phew - I thought I was cracking up!

I remember that now. I was watching it on my iPhone on school residential with about 10 kids crowded around me. We didn't have a bloody clue what was going on!

I watched it later and it was a tiny, but obvious enough touch by McGuire that Smith took a long time to decide over but got right in the end.

But apparently pressed the wrong button dboy?!!!

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It wasn't a big deal at the time, but it did lead to a discussion about what the protocol should have been, as per the decision at Wembley. Erm..so I have been told.

I expect that the teams name will be used in the near future - the system just isn't clear enough at the moment.

Mind you, knowing the refs bosses...

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Quote: dboy "It wasn't a big deal at the time, but it did lead to a discussion about what the protocol should have been, as per the decision at Wembley. Erm..so I have been told.

I expect that the teams name will be used in the near future - the system just isn't clear enough at the moment.

Mind you, knowing the refs bosses...'"


That is how I have always seen the terms used. I'm sad and would probably have noticed and remembered had it been used differently at a game I was watching either live or on TV.

Team names would be easier for the masses - I agree!

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Quote: wires4ever "Unfortunately ‘A body continues in a state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line unless acted on by an external force’
If the ball had been moving forward after hitting Briers it would not be able to change direction again unless it hit something else. A previous ‘momentum’ that it might have had is irrelevant.
That Sir Isaac Newton knew a thing or two about Rugby League.'"


This is true but you must remember that sports players impart an extra force on a ball by striking/throwing it in such a manner that it spins thus causing it to bend in it's trajectory (banana shot) or bounce off an object at an unexpected angle. You must also take into account the force applied by gravity.

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rlCONFIRMATION THAT IT WASN'T A KNOCK ONrl

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Have watched it back and it was definitely a knock on. Still, although it came at a crucial time Leeds still wouldn't have won.

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Quote: Ouzo "Have watched it back and it was definitely a knock on. Still, although it came at a crucial time Leeds still wouldn't have won.'"


Except to the letter of the law, it wasn't.

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Quote: Wheels "Except to the letter of the law, it wasn't.'"


Which is?

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Quote: Ouzo "Which is?'"


The ball initially went backwards off Briers' contact then bounced forwards. To the letter of the law that isn't a knock on, but in my opinion, it should be.

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Quote: Wheels "The ball initially went backwards off Briers' contact then bounced forwards. To the letter of the law that isn't a knock on, but in my opinion, it should be.'"


I personally thought it went forward and briers fell past it. It was a very tight one and I don't think those images show either way.

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Quote: Ouzo "Have watched it back and it was definitely a knock on.'"

Except that it wasn't. It went backwards.

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