Massive leap away from facts there Adey

"scathing attack on Leeds fans" and "clearly sure that Leeds fans were primarily to blame". Those are your words, not his and they're faleshoods.

Here's something that isn't a falsehood. Last night wasn't a Leeds game. Last night the Southstand was full of fans of many, many clubs.

However, even if Peacock had said the words you falesely put in his mouth I'll happily gainsay him. What clue does he have where the boos eminate from in a crowd and which club loyalties those boo-ers have? Maybe he was scouring the southstand for club jerseys which might explain his sub par performance.

Also, JP needs to re-asess his priorities. He should be Leeds first as he was selected last night on reputation, not form. How he got picked ahead of Crabtree is beyond me. Jamie might want to put Leeds first if he wants to regain his international form.

Sound response G and although i don't direct this at Adey it'll fall on deaf ears.
The fact is some RL hacks are reporting it as "leeds fans" exclusively so must be true and the blind idots who missed the shirts from other clubs all over the SS will continue to believe so.
I'll also add that imo whilst half the England team is selected on past form there'll be fewer and fewer fans who take them seriously and tbh they were lucky that Silverwa#* was so poor last night otherwise the deficit would of being much bigger.

Sam doesn't get booed at any ground bar leeds so i'd put it down to you dopey lot

Just shows how good he is that you have to do that even though he's playing for england pretty sad

What do you mean start? They're past masters at it.

Bunch o' hypocrites.

I'm sure Sam will get over it! He's probably out with his mates 'planking' as we speak like any normal 22-year old.

Love the profile the Wire is the best program ever made and has spoilt TV for me.

Off topic but just wanted to say that.

Not sure that's strictly true actually.

For what it's worth I thought the booing of him was pretty pathetic. Not nasty, not premeditated just pathetic and a bit embarrasing for those that did.

The outcry though is really over the top and funny though. My dad and brother heard about 20 lads near them doing it and they've no idea who they support.

The fact they weren't drowned out by the other people in the ground is the worst thing about this.

I see what you are saying here! Where were all the pie fans out cheering the boo boys?

Again I think you pay your money you make your choice! if people boo or not is totally up to them.

as for JP I hope he was misquoted. But G1 was right in what he posted.

hear hear bang on the button

Hmm.

I see you did not choose to quote what I said shortly after (referring to someone making the same point - i.e. was it aimed at Leeds fans?)

Anyone reading the report must be given the clear impression that it was Leeds fans he was aiming his comments at. That means:

1 - He WAS, and the hack knew that
2 - He WAS, but the hack only surmised that
3 - he was NOT, and the hack wrongly surmised that he was. And in which case, the balloon should already have gone up but if not must surely do soon?

Given the very public antipathy towards Tomkins regularly (and understandably) displayed by many Leeds fans - far more than from any other club, even from Stains (bit like we saw from Stains re Newton), it is not difficult to see how 2 or 3 could arise, is it?

I suspect JP will come out and "clarify" his comments, saying he was not singling out Leeds fans - either of his own volition, or because GH has told him to. Until then, I (and pretty well every other reader outside of Leeds) can only read into the report what the hack clearly intended. "England captain Jamie Peacock has launched a furious attack aimed at fans of his own Leeds club". If there is falsehood, it is not initiated by me. I merely comment on what I have read. As you guys would do and do do if you read something affecting e.g. Bradford.

I'm afraid that IMO most of this thread comes across more as seeking to justify WHY the player was booed, along the lines of "it was not just Leeds fans", rather than debating whether it was right that he was.

And the comments about whether JP should have been in the side, and therefore in a position to make the comments, relate to a separate issue (and one I have more sympathy with). But on Friday night, rightly or wrongly, he was representing his country and so was entitled to and indeed expected to speak in that capacity. Are you seriously suggesting he should not and was not? His comments were IMO ill-judged, as they detracted big-time from the game, but it would seem he was speaking from the heart nevertheless?

Tbh, I have grown so disillusioned with the international game that I find it hard to get worked up about whether what happened was right or not. I believe it was not, and did the international game no favours, but realistically we will never catch up with the antipodeans anyway - they have far more money to spend and the game is much bigger over there - so does it matter in the wider scheme of things? Maybe not. Does it play into the hands of those who would prefer to see the back of the internationals? Probably. Still does not make it right though IMO.

Adey whilst pointing out that there were more just Leeds fans in the SS many posters have also said it's out of order to boo an England player just as we did after Mcguire was roundly jeered at Wigan.
We also had the whole "Saints and Leeds" players letting us down at the WC etc etc rather than the England squad and that too was pointed out by many as completely wrong.
Those who are pointing out their thoughts why they think he was booed are entitled to do so aswell but it's hardly showing support for doing it.
As for the international game as a whole how can you take a national team seriously when the coach gets the job on the back of some awful seasons as a club coach and half the team get selected no matter how good other players in SL have played.
I also agree re-how big the game is over there but we could be doing things much better imo.

I too suspect that this will happen and I too suspect that he will be [itold[/i to do this, mind, I suspect that most of the lines that are attributed to him in newpapers are fed to him too.

like you lot did with mcguire at the DW while playing for england?do you lot still wish he'd never played again after last years play off game?

Well said!!