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| Quote: lurchio "
Anyone else think home produced players U23 should have some kind of exemption from the salary cap? Maybe only half their salaries to count?
'" Aye. Been saying that for ageas.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Something I've been asking for over the last four years.'"
Shame the boys inside the JJB didn't ey??? That way you may stay within the cap.
On a more serious note though I think its a genuinely good idea. It will encourage clubs to bring through talent and it would surely do the England/GB teams a world of good.
On a possible negative however it may mean when players become 23+ there released due to clubs not being able to afford them or rather there not wanting to give them a 100% salary rise. Would be a good thing though.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
Why did Leeds release all those "top class" props.
'" Because we comply with the salary cap. But that wasn't your question was it old bean, though I can understand why you're trying to change the subject.
Your question was............
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Who was the last decent young prop produced by the Leeds academy system?'" ....and I think I more than adequately answered you. Of course, none of the players I mentioned have quite hit the heights of O'Carroll and Prescott but maybe Wigan's record for producing quality props is something Leeds can look to emulate.
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| Quote: lurchio "
Anyone else think home produced players U23 should have some kind of exemption from the salary cap? Maybe only half their salaries to count?
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i think you will find almost total agreement at Leeds, Bradford, Wigan, Saints, Hull etc for that, problem is some clubs self interest and short term thinking would leave them uncompetitive, at a club like Hull KR or Wakefield you would be asking turkeys to vote for christmas
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| Quote: lurchio "Anyone else think home produced players U23 should have some kind of exemption from the salary cap? Maybe only half their salaries to count?
Re KL - they dont make em like that over here!'"
Definitely think there should be some form of incentive, yes, but the flip side of that is that you then free up cap space for more journeyman non-GB qualified players to fill out the rest of your squad. Saying that, I'm sure there's a way around that.
However, your point on Kylie then shows what's wrong with the British game, why don't we make 'em like that? Maybe we do, but with the wrong ethnicity some clubs aren't giving them the chance to show it?
That's not a dig at you by the way, it's more an observation on the way club administrators are thinking.
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| Quote: Old Feller "What about the youngsters coming through your all conquering reserve side, no decent prop prospects there then?'"
Ben Davies is probably the next in line behind Prescott and O'Carroll but isn't quite ready yet. And yes, he is a decent prospect.
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| Quote: Mini Rogue "Ben Davies is probably the next in line behind Prescott and O'Carroll but isn't quite ready yet. And yes, he is a decent prospect.'"
I also think that Mossop will move up to prop forward..
O'Carroll may have a broken ankle after Fridays nights game.
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| That Fielden lad could make it.
He needs to increase his stamina levels to play for longer spells. Needs a fair bit of improvement in tackling, and running in hard but has potential. Still a bit soft though, and not sure he could stand up to a bit of biff.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "i think you will find almost total agreement at Leeds, Bradford, Wigan, Saints, Hull etc for that, problem is some clubs self interest and short term thinking would leave them uncompetitive, at a club like Hull KR or Wakefield you would be asking turkeys to vote for christmas'"
Well I'm a Hull KR fan and I'd vote for it! Like I said in that post, I think there could do with some tightening up of where youngsters on scholarships/ U18's can travel from. This would protect smaller clubs from helping local amateur clubs out only to see the top players from the teams that benefited signed up by other teams. I think football have some kind of rule regarding this for U16's? Obviously in league we'd have to make this tighter (a player cannot travel further than the lenght of the M62 would not suffice...)
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| Quote: Lord_Percy "Definitely think there should be some form of incentive, yes, but the flip side of that is that you then free up cap space for more journeyman non-GB qualified players to fill out the rest of your squad. Saying that, I'm sure there's a way around that.
However, your point on Kylie then shows what's wrong with the British game, why don't we make 'em like that? Maybe we do, but with the wrong ethnicity some clubs aren't giving them the chance to show it?
That's not a dig at you by the way, it's more an observation on the way club administrators are thinking.'"
I don't know about that, but I do think the English teams have looked away from lads who are maybe in the mould of props of old, heavy; set etc, viewing them as not being the way forward, and looking to bulk up running forwards rather than condition the those 'big' lads. who are probably much more natural carriers of the ball. I think they hope they're gonna find a Peacock or a Morley but forget they started as 2nd rowers. Why arent they looking for the next Barrie Mc?
In terms of them not building them like that over here, the genetic make up of many of these islanders is something we cant always compete with. just look at Stanley Gene!
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| Quote: Lord_Percy "Definitely think there should be some form of incentive, yes, but the flip side of that is that you then free up cap space for more journeyman non-GB qualified players to fill out the rest of your squad. Saying that, I'm sure there's a way around that.
However, your point on Kylie then shows what's wrong with the British game, why don't we make 'em like that? Maybe we do, but with the wrong ethnicity some clubs aren't giving them the chance to show it?
That's not a dig at you by the way, it's more an observation on the way club administrators are thinking.'"
I have some sympathy for your position, but I feel you are playing devil's advocate here
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