Watched the tries again this morning. Some of our defence for them was bottom of the league stuff. We still look poorly coached

I excpect Leeds Rhinos to be looking for the best coach available, its not hard to understand. If you think Agars that man, then i dont know what criteria your looking at. He's getting the jobb because he's GH mate. Things were toxic under Furner, just getting him out was going to lift the squad, addition by subtraction. Our results under agar, with a better squad, with an easier run of fixtures, without the toxic environment...Have still been rubbish and he seems unable to get them to build on any signs of improvement, soon as thers some optimism, we put a s**tshow like last night on. Theres a reason Agars a running joke among the rugby league community, especially the fans of the teams he's coached.

Tell me what he's done in his whole carreer that has you struggling to see why a lot of fans are upset with his appointment? What has Agar done that qualifies him to coach one of the 2 biggest clubs in the british game?

Im not saying anyones wrong to be optimistic about him getting the job, wish i shared that optimism...But you must be joking if you cant see why a lot of fans think we can do and excpect us to do much better.

Ps. Forgot to quote, thats in response to Karuejim

Why is it so wrong to expect appointing a top coach?

Announcing Agar will put the final seal on a truly dreadful season. Prepare for more of the same next year.

You've got to question Kev's future at the club too, because, if true, its another shocking call.

Cheers for the pep talk Sinny.
What i expect at an Elite RL Club like ours is an elite Coaching set up able to get the best out of a squad mixed with quality ,reliable pros & a sprinkling of our best youngsters.
Funnily enough its what most elite sporting set ups have.
I dont expect to win every game or every Trophy but a set intent of havung us competing for all of the above again.
I dont expect Bullsh!£ pr employees , a squad full of has beens & never will bes or a Poundland Coach getting a job because some "like hiim".

Dont expect us to be contenders for at least a couple of seasons yet , but weve got Agar next season and it looks like most of the present squad .

Talking of coaching set up 2 of the u16s assistant coaches was sacked this week. Not sure who but was told they should never have been coaching at a club like Leeds and should never have been earning the money they was.

The appointment of the next coach will set the expectations of the club and send out a message to the fans. Appoint Agar and the club is saying mediocrity is acceptable and not just for a year.

I am always sceptical when players come out and say how much they like working with a coach - usually suggests the coach is too soft. I want hear the players saying how much they respect a coach e.g. Wane at Saints or Bellamy at Melbourne

There’s always talk of these top class experienced coaches from the NRL but in reality how many of them actually come over here and the ones that do how many are all that successful?

I think the squad next season is a bigger issue than the coach. If we dont have some forwards who love defence and love getting their hands dirty it doesn't matter who's coaching them and our backs will never have a chance. Also, we just need an average half back that can kick out of hand and is always ready to make a pre planned last tackle play. We don't need 40/20s. We just need a nice low grubber over the try line or a long kick that doesn't go straight to the winger/full back. I don't think you can coach that into someone when they're already a full time pro. It's either in their game or it's not.

A coach can only do so much, look how a few on here were predicting Hull KR to rise up the table when Tony Smith joined them, theyre one defeat from relegation

Id still take Tony Smith over Agar every day of the week & twice on a Sunday.

We have a very mediocre team and soon to be appointed coach and it doesn't look like it's going to change anytime soon .However we have world class corporate facilities something the likes of me will never see the inside of .

A good coach can make a massive difference, look at how quickly saints improved midseason when holbrook took over from cunningham. They went from rubbish and awful to watch... to an entertaining team and a shocking Percival goalkicking performance away from the grandfinal...all in a few month.

Not me for one. I said he was behind the times and out of the game too long, and Hull KR were favourites for relegation. In the same manner Agar has been out of the game far too long for a head coach.