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| Quote: Seth "I must have been on a different site then when I read posts insisting that we were progressing under smith and how we would put some big scores on sides 'when the pitches firmup'.'"
No, but it’s also the same site that people post that we wont win any of our next six games etc etc, they're just opinions, and they can turn out to be wrong.
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| Quote: christopher "No, but it’s also the same site that people post that we wont win any of our next six games etc etc, they're just opinions, and they can turn out to be wrong.'"
I'd never make an arbitrary statement like we'll not win any of our next 6 games (I'll be honest I've not seen that one) but I will say from observation that I'd seen no evidence of progress when others insisted there was and could well say that 'i can't see us winning X if we play like that. which set of 'opinions' has been closer to the mark consistently over the last 18 months.
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| Quote: Seth "I'd never make an arbitrary statement like we'll not win any of our next 6 games (I'll be honest I've not seen that one) but I will say from observation that I'd seen no evidence of progress when others insisted there was. which set of 'opinions' has been closer to the mark consistently over the last 18 months.'"
Youve never seen posters saying i cant see is winning our next 6 games?
I still say there has been progress in the last 18 months within the whole club but unfortunately it hasn’t manifested itself to performances in the first team and it’s cost the coach his job.
Im not sure what you’re after? A medal or something ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: christopher "Youve never seen posters saying i cant see is winning our next 6 games?
I still say there has been progress in the last 18 months within the whole club but unfortunately it hasn’t manifested itself to performances in the first team and it’s cost the coach his job.
Im not sure what you’re after? A medal or something
I've seen 'i can't see us winning X playing like that's.
A big shiny medal if you wouldn't mind that says 'congratulations for stating the bleeding obvious ' ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Chev walker comes across so poorly in his interviews, I'd struggle to be motivated by him. The whole team look and play like he sounds, dreary with zero inspiration. I'll be really disappointed if him and grix are still here next season.
Thinking about this further, from smith downwards the dominant (or sole) philosophy of pragmatism, 'you're never as bad or as good as you think', is nice to have as a foundation in life and in sport but with leeds itseems like its bred a such a laid back culture that the desire that's essential at this level just isnt there. They seem like nice guys and go9d friends but almost too nice. I'm glad weve already heard BA mention accountability, and that's the 'kick up the ar se' I think is desperately needed.
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| If I were Brad Arthur and I was asked to submit an assessment of the current playing squad this is what I would say!
Keep
Millar
Handley
Croft
Oledski
Ackers
Martin
Lisone
Gannon
Jurys Out
Newman - cost injuries consistency
O Connor - size
Mcdonnell - impact go forward
Bentley - as above can only keep 1
Smith - Needs a clear role
Holroyd - injuries plus lack of yards
Go
Fusitua - injuries cost quota space
Momorovski - average for a quota spot
Frawley - no comment needed
Sangare - never going to be good enough
Goudamond - underwhelming squad player
Donaldson - good guy but times up
Roberts - younger players more potential in position
Hudson - pointless signing
Essentially there is an argument that two third of the squad are not good enough.Have not included the youngsters and Corey Johnson who would be in the July out pool.
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| Frankly we could do a lot better than Lisone in my opinion. Not sure its fair on Hudson - I'd say the jury's out until we see him play isn't it?
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| Quote: chapylad "Unfortunately with the exception of a couple or three the players brought in by Smith are nowhere near good enough for a top 3 or 4 team.
We probably need at least 6 decent new recruits and are able to ship almost as many out.
Fusi, Momorovski, Frawley, Goudemand, Donaldson, maybe Sangare and if he doesn`t start playing to his strengths Newman need shipping out.
We then need props such as Belin maybe who is available next year, Sironen/ Fitzgibbon type second rowers and a decent centre maybe 2 along with an organising half back or Mikey Lewis type player.
No way this will happen but that`s how far I believe we are from a top 3 team.'"
You may be right, but if you are we can all put of feet up for at least another full season after this.
What we have to do now is fix up as much as we can within cap, contract and quota. I believe we can add 2x quality forwards and either a new 7 or centre and get us in better shape - it is a little depressing that we still look like we need to regroup and have a pre-season…
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| I suspect Arthur may upset a few on here in some of his first selections...
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| why? he can only work with what's there.
what he can improve is structure, discipline, game plan and organisation.
and after the last clown he will be a massive upgrade
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| I'd be surprised if in his first game at least he picks as close to the first choice 17 we have available. They're supposedly the best players and are the most experienced. Given how few games we have left to improve though he may make changes very quickly if performances don't pick up.
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| I wouldn't be surprised as he comes in with fresh eyes, shirt numbers will mean little and usually those further down the numbers are usually less experienced, not necessarily not as good. I
One I'll be interested to see what happens with is O'Connor, smith turned him into a 9 but I think 13 is a better fit and I think he'd be better there than smith at the minute so the halves are expected to dictate play more.
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| I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.
Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "I wouldn’t say Smith turned him into a 9 - he was never going to get in the side past Cam. We needed cover at hooker and he had the right body type and some skill so there you go. One of the most picked players in the side for 2 years nearly.
Now he has bulked up a bit I think loose forward might be back in the frame, but he ultimately lacks size. TNW was picked at 13 for the reserves too.'"
Turned O'connor into a 9 and the rest into headless chickens.
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