This suggests that all our previous success is down to our incumbent coach - I beg to differ.

If BMcD is solely responsible for an all conquering team then the loss of a couple of players should be irrelevant, his coaching skills will surely be able to counter losing a couple of players? He will obviously be able to coach the rest of his charges sufficiently to more than compensate for this small loss. Remember HE was the coach that brought is the Treble, HE was the coach that brought us back to back wins from 5th, HE is Leeds' most successful coach EVER.

Good old Bri will use his superior coaching knowledge to coach us out of this dilemma, he's just making us sweat for a while simply to amuse himself - why else would he have let us get to this point in the season with such a pish-poor record when he could have used his coachy super powers to ensure we didn't lose?

If Brian McDermott is such a good coach, why are we in this mess?

We are having a stinking, lousy, horrible season. But as someone who has supported the club for years and witnessed a succession of lousy seasons. I have seen it all before. My main concern at the moment is the ground refurbishment.
If the club gets that wrong ,we are stuck with that forevermore. Going to some of the new stadiums in the super league i am always disappointed. The majority of these grounds are soulless in comparison to previous stadiums.

You have seen it all before? and did the club persist with the same people when we had equally stinking, lousy, horrible seasons? or did they react and do something about it? would we have had the success we have had, had nothing been done about it?

Staying the same and hoping things will improve is not the correct move to make.

For the same reason that Warrington will probably never be champions under Tony Smith.

By and large they did react, unfortunately for the club most of the decisions proved to be disastrous. Fortunately Paul Caddick stepped in to save the day. If at the end of the season things are still dire ,then that's the time to take stock of the situation.

But you know as well as everyone else that recruitment does not take place in the close season, it takes place long before, with agreements in place. End of the season is totally the wrong time to take stock and decide from there, as you are as still likely to be regretting it the following season.

When we appointed Tony Smith, and the decision made, but for a couple of players getting in to trouble, Daryl Powell could have been going out as a champion, and irrespective of that it was still our best season in a while. Compare and contrast to this.

At the season end ,it may well be Brian Mac saying I have had enough, time for someone else to have a go.
Also it will be time to make a decision on various young players like sutcliffe. He will have had sufficient chances to prove himself, if he does not improve he will or should be moved on.

I wouldnt be judging young players after this year they've been on a hiding to nothing.

Quite true, like everbody else I am hoping we can get most, if not all of our senior players back in the next few weeks.
Then we can judge the current squad of players. It seems a long time since the season kicked off with a decent performance against the wire. Probably unlucky to lose that game, since then Lady Luck has not smiled upon us.

galloway not up to the task either

Thank god Falloon only on a one year contract or is he really better than he has been playing

Coming into a struggling team at hooker is a tough ask. From memory the great buderus did not rip up too many trees in first year, nor did Aiton. They both had advantage of coming into sides playing much better and with kylie on one side and the amazing freak Jp on the other. Also halves are all over the shop. He is not the biggest but has done some good round the ankles tackles near line to stop tries like buderus used to. Think fairer to judge him and Galloway at end of year if we ever start to play better.