In all honesty, it kind of feels like we are trying to follow what Wigan did a couple of years ago, with a lot of antipodeans trying to stay competitive. (Granted theirs were of a higher quality, but they fell on them lucky).

I'd much rather follow what Wigan are doing now, for all Wanes faults, I like his next man up trust the youngsters mentality, supplemented by a few choice signings.

We have too many Aussies at the moment and only a couple (Moon, Cuthbo) who are top quality.

JESUS , Garbutt was idolised on here a few weeks ago

Garbutt and Delaney I wouldn't mind keeping, but then that's only 4 in a 17, as opposed to the 6 we are likely to field when everyone is fit.

If I rephrase, Moon and Cuthbo are the only two I don't think we could find/develop a same quality replacement for.

We're missing McGuire and Ward. Please don't count Hall because he's been appalling for 2 years. On paper we have a fantastic team. We need a decent coach to get the best out of them.

Would that be the Hall that scored the try to win the league leaders shield last year, or the one that got us in the GF? The one whose early hard work put us in the front foot so often last year.

It's not all about number off tries. Granted Hall hasn't been very good so far this year but who in our team really has, to claim he's been awful for two years is ridiculous.

Same with Mac, give him a chance to pull us round this year like he has previous years, if he can't manage, then we maybe need someone else, but he's earned the chance.


As an aside to this thread, wasn't it The Sleeve that said coaches have a certain shelf life, that's why Mac replaced Bluey, Brians been here a long time, maybe he's outlived his shelf life with this group of players, doesn't means he's a bad coach.

Yes, the same Ryan Hall who's worst game was THAT Huddersfield game last year. The same Ryan Hall who has been owned by Manfredi on the last 2 games vs Wigan. The same Ryan Hall who couldn't catch a cold against Saints last week before going off at half time.

We don't have time to wait for Mac to fix it. He needs to go

We have played 7 league games, admit most quite poor, since winning our first double and treble. Sacking our most successful ever coach seems a bit OTT. If we are poor all year, Gh and BM are not daft, they can see what we see and more and maybe we will have a Warrington type clear out but for my money BM deserves at least 1 year from now.

In the GF granted Manfredi gets the better of Hall for his try, but then Hall outdoes him for the ball for Walters try. Also don't recall Hall dumping Manfredi in a tip tackle at a key point that cost his team vital territory.

Wallace Arnold or Sherrings !

That is the sensible answer and what will no doubt happen. If we start next year like this then questions need to be asked about what direction we need to go in but i still have faith in the guy to turn things around.

Exactly this.

Stevosfalseteeth, go have a nap or something. Your constant ranting, dummy spitting and slagging off of the entire club is beyond embarrassing mate.

i wouldn't get drawn in by Stevosfalseteeth's regular despondent and negative posts as they all could possibly be made by an alter ego of a certain well known wind up merchant that peruses this forum when things arn't going too well:wink: