I agree to an extent, although some of the criticism of him is way too much. Neither Smith or Bluey rotated well at times either.

Smith did during his first couple of years, and Bluey always seem to show faith in the young players.

Smith gets lots of credit for rotating a lot but that's not how I remember his tenure as a whole. MacDermott has shown faith in young players too-and developed young players who were already established first teamers. If we're going to criticise him for everything let's praise him too. BJB, Watkins, Hardaker, clarkson, singleton, ward, sutlciffe have all developed since he's been coach. I don't for a second think it's all down to him but when he's thought a player's good enough he's not been scared to throw them in.

As Peacock walked back towards the Western Terrace after a try at ther other end a Wolves fan balddered on ale and with his mother shouted out to Jamie, "Peacock youre a w anker" Jamie looked him in the eye and just said "Thanks for that". pure class bloke.

Couldn't believe it when they said he'd done 60 tackles on SKY. Immense effort! Especially someone his age. What's the record for most tackles in a match?

I think of the best decisions he made was retiring from
International RL. Two years I ago I personally thought he was struggling and was a shadow of his former self (unsurprisingly when was the last time he had a proper off season before retiring)

Since retiring its like he's got another engine.
Absolute immense effort and a definite legend of the game!

Think he made something like 53/54 against Warrington last year when we lost 19-18 at their ground.

Believe Danny Houghton made 60+ last year in a game for Hull that was on Sky.

I think Steele Retchless holds the record with 65. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Houghton surpassed it.

Tony Smith's selections left a lot to be desired at times.
When we played Hudds in the 2006 CC semi at Odsal and lost he started JJB and Scruton as starting props and Peacock at 2nd row and Bailey on the bench. He thought going away to St.Helens we'd be better off doing the same thing although that time it was Thackray instead of Scruton.

JJB was actually selected at prop that year more times than Peacock who got moved to the 2nd row around the half way point of the year.

Sinfield played 24 league games in 2005, only 3 were at Loose but some would tell you it was Brian McDermott who switched Sinfield to Stand-Off.

He played an unfit player in Senior in a CC Final and it backfired massively, he bought Ian Kirke, went most of his tenure without a proper back-up hooker, moved McKenna (who'd made a good transition to 2nd row) back to centre when Senior missed the remainder of the 2005 campaign instead of given a young one a chance, saw us with props of the calibre of Thackray, Mark O'Neill, Chris Feather, Wayne McDonald. We also saw the likes of Liam Botham, Shane Millard, Nathan McAvoy. The sort of things McDermott takes abuse for.

Interesting to note how some have a go at McDermott for not dropping out of form players yet on the Warrington board now they're not happy with how Smith sticks with Atkins and Myler. Also when someone said O'Brien should stay in the team for next week as he played well another poster replied "he'll get dropped next week for Russell......play well and get dropped......it's the Warrington way."

Yet some Leeds fans still think he was amazing because Ali-Senior-Bai were a deadly force down that left hand side.

Wayne McDonald was worth it for that try alone against St Helens, also didn't McDonald sign in 2002 and I don't remember him playing much in 2004/5.

Made 26 appearances in 2004, 14 of those were starts which is more than Barrie McDermott made (11).

Printer- Tony Smith got plenty of criricism for selections etc at the time on here especially towards the end of his tenure and at no point did anyone think he was "Amazing" because of the Ali/Senior/Bai combo his work here achieved much more than that but at the same time had it's faults.
As for what Wire fans think he's turned them into trophy winers and got them to GF's so maybe some would do well to remember that when assessing his "overall" achievements and work there.
Every Coach ,and player gets appraised on performnces at the time of that discussion which happens on here on a regular basis do they always get it right then NO but at the same time it's not always wrong either.
Smith achieved a lot more good than bad during his tenure as did Mclennon imo but were still criticised and praised where deserved the same can also be said for present Incumbant and squad.

You're right, he has won CC's and reached GF's at Wire so deserves the credit.
Likewise McDermott for Leeds has won GF's and reached CC's and won a WCC yet they've clearly been some who downplay this (players won them, success due to previous management regimes), just about anything apart from say McDermott's done well.

The thing is at times I'm not McDermott's biggest fan despite what some might think. I think he has done ok though but I too don't care some of his decisions or style of play at times.

However I was just pointing out in my previous post that issues with McDermott happened under Smith too but you wouldn't know it the way some round on one and praise the other. Like you said, Smith got his criticism when here too (many seemed happy that he was leaving) but now admire him when at another club. A similar thing happens at times when players leave or are out of the team. BJB when in the team was viewed as the weaker link of the backs, now it's unfair he's not picked. It was wrong not to pick McShane but when he did people said he wasn't good enough. Clarkson and Achurch always look better in some peoples eyes when they are not selected.