Today is not your lucky day, this is the first time in a week that I've logged on with this account only to find you trolling on two different threads, so in the spirit of the Wigan mods - take a break.

Hate to agree, but sinfield has been the best positional kicker in sl for the past 5 years at least, he may be losing pace but the kicks more than make up for it.

Further question will it be pay on the gate for the derby clash, can't get through to the bulls ticket office and I can't ring them whilst I'm in work never get any signal

For a man as old as I am, who has had the privellege of watching some RL greats since 1978 I think I must now concede the admired captain Leeds of my youth (David Ward) has been surpassed. I somehow doubt it will happen again.

I salute you Kevin. The epitome of what a true sportsman should be.

Must be sickening for a fullback when Kev puts in one of those kicks that just rolls over your try line. You then have to run back thirty to forty yards pick up the ball and try to clear your line. Then you look up and see a line of blue jerseys waiting to hammer you into the ground. Priceless .

Saaaaaam Man of the match for me .

Kev and Wardy are both our two greatest captains.I remember Wardy coming back as Hunslet coach and ashe walked down the north stand touchline he had tears in his eyes at the reception he got.Kevin Sinfield will be held in the same esteem as David long after he finishes

You could perhaps argue that Ward edges it, simply because he wasn't surrounded by the high calibre of players that Sinfield has to take some of the load off his shoulders.

Most of the Leeds sides that Ward lead had a handful of stars, but never really enough to do more than mount the occasional challenge in knockout competitions. Sinfield has had the privilege to lead some of the best British players of his generation.

Yep it's a tricky one....but Kevin is now without a doubt his equal. I am impressed with his dignity on AND off the field. His post match interviews are always insightful, measured, sagacious, modest, honest and genuinely resepectful of his opposition.

In today's sporting world of dubious examples led by the likes of [iwhat'shisname[/i - the England football captain - he is even more of a beacon of all that is/should be good in sport.

As has been said many times before, not the greatest player in anyone position but as a captain and all round player surely the greatest. He is certainly the best captain and the very best embassador for the game of rugby league. Arise Sir Kevin

Sinfield IMO has been much more influential than Ward IMO when you take into consideration his allround skills including his kicking. Kevin has always played the pivotal 'heads up' role for Leeds and even on his quieter days is always at the heart of everything that goes on. His contribution to our success has been huge and he has the rare ability to regularly be the main reason for so many victories.

Yes I think so too,I was just remembering the regard that the crowd had for Ward at that time,and the crowd will remember Sinfield just the same in years to come

It's gutting that he has never been voted Man of Steel. No player deserves it more. If we go on to win the CC and super league this year he should be awarded a MBE.