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| Quote: craigizzard "Quote: craigizzard "Quote: craigizzard "have been a regular Leeds fan since I was 8 years old and that goes back to the mid50s and Ive only wore my teams colours on Wembley and championship and grandfinal occasions.I dont know why,but I do wear club tee shirts and polo shirts at home and sometimes go to the pub in them.I used to work in Alwoodley Primley Park and moortown etc in the 60s-70s and I found the Jewish community used support both clubs'"
The Jewish community has dwindled in Leeds to a small percentage of what it was in the 60-70s. Of the 6000 or so left there appears to be diminishing interest in Leeds R.L. An interesting book to read is that by Anthony Clavane which is about the Jewish community in Leeds and its links to Leeds United. He says the first sporting team that attracted a Jewish following was Leeds rugby league, as Leeds Utd became successful most transfered their alliegances to Elland Road. It would appear the diminishing population and other attractions mean our substantial Jewish following is no more.'"
I've read that book and think Clavane was right about board-level involvement but wrong about general Jewish support. Leeds RL at least in the late 70s/80s was as well if not better supported than Utd in the Jewish community because 1) they played on Sundays not Saturdays and 2) they didn't have nutcase fascist fans.
Nowadays, as you say, a lot of Leeds Jewry has aged or left, but an even bigger factor in lack of attendance at Headingley is the switch to Friday night rugby, with Friday nights, even for the non-religious, being pretty universally for the family and the home.'"
I also read Clavanes book.I bought it last time I was home and read it over here recently.An interesting piece of Leeds Jewish sporting history is the fact that the old LEEDS PARISH CHURCH N U team's support had quite a sizeable Jewish percentage |
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Season ticket holders isn't the best way to count a clubs fan base. Season ticket holders are a part of the fan base but not the full picture. There are people who pay on the gate a number of times a year but not at every game. Let’s also not forget that Leeds has some of the most deprived areas in the country and they’ll be people from those areas who simply can’t afford to get to the games. But they’ll keep in touch with how the Rhinos are doing via other means.
My grandparents and probably other people’s grandparents support the Rhinos from their rocking chairs in old people’s homes when listening to the radio. There’s toddlers who don’t even know that they support the Rhinos but they parents have bought them Rhinos romper suits.
Some people are just too busy to support the Rhinos but still want all that’s best for them. Example – businessmen.
There are people in prison who support the Rhinos. These people are just not able to support the rhinos in the manner that the 12,000 season ticket holders can.
Have I forgotten anyone here?'"
Those who are on life support machines, they wouldn't be able to get to the ground very regularly.
John Tracey who works on the Thunderbird 5 Space Station, he wouldn't be able to get to many home games either. |
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As for the Invisible Man, that's anybody's guess.
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I went to a school in Alwoodley and several of my frieds are good rhinos fans. Trouble is that most of us have moved away from the city, maybe thats where the class element comes in
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Same here.
Also, while there were quite a few Jewish kids who supported Leeds RLFC as was, there were many, many more who didn't express any interest in sport whatsoever.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "Population of Leeds circa 725,000.
Average number of season tickets sold by Leeds Rhinos circa 12,000
And you think that shirts and stickers are a bit thinly diluted ?'"
Not only that... but those 12,000 don't walk around dressed in full gear all the time.
I'm a season ticket holder and attend 90% of away matches. I don't own a replica shirt. I have a zippy hoody which I'll wear but only to matches, and even then if it's too hot for a hoody I'll just wear whatever t-shirt I happened to put on that morning.
I have no car stickers either.
Sorry for generalising here (or sounding snobby) but... perhaps if it appears there's more fans in the more working class areas it's because the more working class folk are more likely to have the visual signifier that they're a fan.
I mean this...
Quote: McLaren_Field "By contrast, in Alwoodley where i now live, I very rarely see anyone wearing a shirt, car stickers or anything.'"
doesn't mean there's not as many fans, I just suggest anyone choosing to live in Alwoodley isn't the sort of person to do their shopping in a replica kit. |
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "Those who are on life support machines, they wouldn't be able to get to the ground very regularly.
John Tracey who works on the Thunderbird 5 Space Station, he wouldn't be able to get to many home games either.'"
Wayne Rooney’s a Leeds Rhinos fan too. But I doubt he gets to many Leeds Rhinos games. |
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Wonder where Ray is?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "Wonder where Ray is?'"
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Sorry for generalising here (or sounding snobby) but... perhaps if it appears there's more fans in the more working class areas it's because the more working class folk are more likely to have the visual signifier that they're a fan.'"
I often wear one of my several hundred Rhinos shirts, hoodies, jackets, shorts, joggers, scarves etc. My car has a Rhinos number plate and a couple of stickers.
I hadn't realised that the British class structure was measured in this way but by your criteria I am most unquestionably working class. |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Sorry for generalising here (or sounding snobby) but... perhaps if it appears there's more fans in the more working class areas it's because the more working class folk are more likely to have the visual signifier that they're a fan.
I mean this...
Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "By contrast, in Alwoodley where i now live, I very rarely see anyone wearing a shirt, car stickers or anything.'"
doesn't mean there's not as many fans, I just suggest anyone choosing to live in Alwoodley isn't the sort of person to do their shopping in a replica kit.'"
Well said. I've never worn a replica Leeds Rhinos shirt in my entire life and wouldn't be seen dead in one. I regard it all as gear worn by those who can't afford Burberry or Stone Island. |
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Well said. I've never worn a replica Leeds Rhinos shirt in my entire life and wouldn't be seen dead in one. I regard it all as gear worn by those who can't afford Burberry or Stone Island.'"
Didn't have you pegged as a Burberry kind of guy but... now thinking about it... |
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Quote: Damo-Leeds "Those who are on life support machines, they wouldn't be able to get to the ground very regularly.
John Tracey who works on the Thunderbird 5 Space Station, he wouldn't be able to get to many home games either.'"
Wayne Rooney’s a Leeds Rhinos fan too. But I doubt he gets to many Leeds Rhinos games.'"
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| Quote: Fat Boy "Quote: Fat Boy "Sorry for generalising here (or sounding snobby) but... perhaps if it appears there's more fans in the more working class areas it's because the more working class folk are more likely to have the visual signifier that they're a fan.'"
I often wear one of my several hundred Rhinos shirts, hoodies, jackets, shorts, joggers, scarves etc. My car has a Rhinos number plate and a couple of stickers.
I hadn't realised that the British class structure was measured in this way but by your criteria I am most unquestionably working class.'"
Sorry if you've taken offence...
The OP implied that Alwoodley (etc) doesn't have as many fans, based purely on the fact he doesn't see as many kits/stickers whilst driving about the area.
My point (valid point), is that it's safe to assume there are other reasons why the kits/stickers aren't on show in these areas, and it isn't just purely because there are less fans. All rules have exceptions, but a stereotype is usually a stereotype for a reason. |
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| Quote: leeds owl "We have Ikram Butt working at Leeds and there's no doubt he's trying to spread the gospel...'"
Only if his converted to the one true faith but i reckon hell be a muslin.
Quote: leeds owl "The club seems to have made inroads into the Chapeltown area but only time will tell if this yields supporters as well as players.'"
Well end up with 20 wingers but will never get a halfback 
Its white workingclass men that always have been the backbone of the suport but you probably arent allowed to say that nowdays.
sooner we leave the EU the better I say. |
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