Spot on.

This is not an unusual statistic for Kirke. It's the 2nd time this season he's made 4 carries in a game.

As Juan says, he has no appetite whatsoever for ball. Since the end of 2009 he's been a complete waste of a jersey. People thought I was conducting some kind of vendetta last year. Now more are seeing it. Lazy, softcock. No other word for it.

JJB is a better comparison with Hauraki than Ablett last season - IIRC not much to choose between them other than Weller tended to cross the try line more. Hauraki strikes me more as an impact player in the mould of Lauitiiti. Perhaps when we get some more bodies back this is how they will be used...

On Kirke, he seems to have done a fair amount of tackling that suggests he was on the field for a reasonable stint, in which case ignore my previous post - that is a shocking effort for someone supposedly stepping up to be a prop.

Nice inclusion of Bailey's stats by the way tvoc

Brett Hodgson hasn't started particularly well in Wire colours has he. We were talking about this watching the match on Sat. Also, I think I heard announced in the background, unless my ears deceived me, that he got the sponsors MoM on the night. Which, if true, is bizarre to say the least.

Covert racism in full swing again.

[i"Our overall team performance compares well against Warrington." [/i

Really? I would have thought shipping in 7 tries a pretty poor attempt at competing, and makes for a poor comparison.

As for Gotcha, and his instant recall of the number of tackles that Hauraki has made/missed so far this season,

I'll simply leave it that he thought Sinny was sensational and inventive last week......

You may also have missed that Hauraki was the only forward to offer us any go forward. You praise JJB, Burgess and Ablett for a big performance, all of it in the tackling dept, and sadly behind the much malined Hauraki as far as taking the ball in, and way behind the shift Westwood and Harrison put in. Now THAT was a performance.

Lack of a good kicking game.....poor use of the subs...... etc, can be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches door IMHO

This may be a tongue in cheek comment but I find this post extremely offensive. Please explain how anything I have posted on this messageboard can be construed as racist, covert or otherwise.

I've been using this board for a longer than most, and have sung Bailey's praises in the past when it was unfashionable to do so, long before he was given a silly nickname that made him something of a cult player. I like Bailey and FWIW think he makes a valuable contribution to the team (yes, more so than Kirke!), but I also think that just because he has become a fan favourite doesn't exempt him from criticism. 'TMFMISL' should be doing more to justify this tag (when he is fit, naturally), and holding this view has nothing to do with racism. If you can't handle reasonable debate about your hero, try to engage with the arguments at hand instead of playing the race card.

I'd love it if Bailey came back and took over Peacock's job as pack leader, but the evidence suggests that he has a long way to go. I'd also love him to get picked for England to wind up the Aussies, but to do this he's going to need to develop a few more strings to his bow.

WOW! What a bite that is! Seriously ER... I know it's a sensitive issue but I think BB was joking.

He's got under my skin, like a Bailey niggle in the tackle...

whooosh!!

You've totally not understood my comment by a long, long, way.

You mentioned that tvoc included Bailey's no stats, so really I'm pointing the finger at tvoc, in a tongue in cheek way.

With this in mind, anything to say?

I understood you



Id be more concerned though that he called... nah, i'm not even going to go there

I think we both spotted the same joke opportunity Harrigan, I thought better of it too.