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| Quote Remarkable_Rhinos="Remarkable_Rhinos"The problem with it if it was those two individuals who have been mentioned, is that they don't really have much of a problem competing with the Aussies anyway. It would just mean that England's pack would have Ellis, Burgess, Roby & Graham all from the NRL, which wouldn't really improve our international game that much in all seriousness. Our pack is pretty decent now. Ok, it would move beyond "Pretty Decent" to awesome, but still, it's our backs that need seriously improving and none of those will be moving to the NRL because they're not good enough.
It's a Catch 22 situation really. The players that would substantially improve with a season down under are the ones that aren't good enough to attract the move in the first place.
They only want the players that are already doing a half decent job of compete with them. Thus, no great improvement to the England side if you think about it that way.'"
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| Quote Ferdy="Ferdy"Is that the Aussie based player who has been in reserve grade for most of the season?'"
who has Billy Slater ahead of him |
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| Quote Remarkable_Rhinos="Remarkable_Rhinos"If Roby & Graham go it's a good thing for Leeds.
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Yes probably but in a strange way i would miss seeing graham, And his sulking against leeds! |
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"Players going over to the NRL would not be a short term thing though, players would learn over there (if the players move on to coaching would use things they have learned over there). Imagine if one of our half backs went over and imagine the player we would have then
Then again we have an Aussie based player who we drop when we face the Aussies as he dropped a bomb the previous week
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And you miss the bigger picture Loz. Yeah sure, send that half back over there who is great for our competition. What we get is one half back who debatably would improve, but as the competition dumbs down because of the loss of better players, the other half back would go down in quality. Therefore you would still have a zero effect on our international team.
Unless the whole of the England side is playing in the NRL then IMO it is a pointless excersise. Remarkable Rhinos got it spot on above, that the players that the NRL want are all ready at an high quality. What we want is for our kids of 16-18 to spend seasons with the NRL clubs, not lose our best players to another competition. |
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"And you miss the bigger picture Loz. Yeah sure, send that half back over there who is great for our competition. What we get is one half back who debatably would improve, but as the competition dumbs down because of the loss of better players, the other half back would go down in quality. Therefore you would still have a zero effect on our international team.
Unless the whole of the England side is playing in the NRL then IMO it is a pointless excersise. Remarkable Rhinos got it spot on above, that the players that the NRL want are all ready at an high quality. What we want is for our kids of 16-18 to spend seasons with the NRL clubs, not lose our best players to another competition.'"
Spot on. I know it completely different sport, however in Swimming we were getting thrashed by other nations, Youngsters 16-20 are not sent down under based at off shore centres then come back improved. that happend approx 5 years ago and now the benifits are being reaped. |
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"And you miss the bigger picture Loz. Yeah sure, send that half back over there who is great for our competition. What we get is one half back who debatably would improve, but as the competition dumbs down because of the loss of better players, the other half back would go down in quality. Therefore you would still have a zero effect on our international team.
Unless the whole of the England side is playing in the NRL then IMO it is a pointless excersise. Remarkable Rhinos got it spot on above, that the players that the NRL want are all ready at an high quality. What we want is for our kids of 16-18 to spend seasons with the NRL clubs, not lose our best players to another competition.'"
But your agreeing with me Gotcha, send players over, sign up the kids |
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"But your agreeing with me Gotcha, send players over, sign up the kids'"
That's not what I have said at all. Read it again. |
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"That's not what I have said at all. Read it again.'"
But I say they sign up our kids, so do you...
Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"What we want is for our kids of 16-18 to spend seasons with the NRL clubs'"
..so you agree with me then? |
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Certainly not. Sending a handful of players over will improve a handful of players.
The effort needs to be in improving the whole game over here, particularly at junior levels.
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Certainly not. Sending a handful of players over will improve a handful of players.
The effort needs to be in improving the whole game over here, particularly at junior levels.'"
Maybe sending Potential Young British coaches other there might be the answer? |
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| Quote Ferdy="Ferdy"Maybe sending Potential Young British coaches other there might be the answer?'"
which would benefit a handful of coaches.
Why not, instead, find what it is the Australian coaches do or who they learn from, and bring that over here?
Besides, it's probably the Kiwis that we should be looking at - with one full time pro club and a significantly smaller population than Australia, they manage to generate players that can beat them. |
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Besides, it's probably the Kiwis that we should be looking at - with one full time pro club and a significantly smaller population than Australia, they manage to generate players that can beat them.'"
Very true!
although a Super League club hired a NZ coach who towards the end of his tenure was rumored to have lost the dressing room due to his coaching...
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