Nothing with semantics, I just didn't say what you re trying to twist it into. Again I pointed out PATIENCE will be needed wrt to the attack, last time I checked patience doesn't exactly mean close or already there.

And Sinfield wasn't vital to us picking up points regularly in the league in 2015 and we won away (and well) at places like Cas and Catalans without him and he came off the bench when we'd already stormed ahead at Saints.

Where his lost will be felt from that year is the key crunch games at the back end like playoff and cup semis etc.

We won't miss him then as we will not be involved in those games

Sal Paradise in making stuff up shocker!

Only on SouthStander can you say "patience may be needed" and then be accused of saying we are already there.

Yep and it's always one of the same few posters, who still persist even when their mistake's been pointed out to them by multiple posters over several pages.

Very unusual last night Leeds played for a long period in the second half with 9 backs on the field and only two props, could this be a winning formula?

no its macdermotts crackpot approach

The same crackpot that has won 3 GF's, 2 CC's, 1 WCC and 1 LLS???

Meanwhile all us on SouthStander have won how many of those trophies???

How many trophies or even good performances have been seen since Sinfield and Peacock left ?.
How many obvious holes in the team has he filled ? Why can't he fix any of the issues that have plagued us since the start of life after said players ?.

Yes, the players have to take some responsibility and some of the efforts at times have been woeful but so does the coach.
Random dropping of performing fringe players for crocked favourite's, bizarre bench use, chopping and changing HB pairings weekly, sending away our best organiser and goal kicker, having no attacking structure week after week etc etc.

Every one knew where we were weak and it's lucky Golding and Parcell are playing well or we would be even worse off. The fact is we need a goal kicking organiser at #7, one or both of jjb or Delaney needs to be moved on and we need to decide which of Mags,Burrow or Sutty will go as ATM we have too many 6s with broadly the same skill set.
We should be getting early good ball to our outside backs at pace, not flat passes at a standstill pace which kills players like Watkins and Moon.

spot on. some people live in the past though

Anyone have an idea why we had 9 backs on? It absolutely bewildered me

How many chances has he had? 1 season, we didn't win anything in 2010 or 2013 when Sinfield and Peacock were running everything.



Since the end of 2010??? Look at the different lineups for the 2009 GF and the 2015 GF.



Last year was a write off, if anybody thinks it would be fine losing our preseason and training ground if Sinfield was still here is deluded.



I'm not for second saying he hasn't performed as well as possible....but name one coach that has? We're talking about 3 rounds of a season where we've still won 2 out 3......and yes people may not like it but 2016 you just can't take as normal because of the preseason.



But these issues were there in previous years when Sinfeild was doing ALL the coaching???



So when players play well it's pure luck and all on those players.....when players play sh*te it's because of McDermott....got it.



This could be copy and pasted from February 2015......you know when Sinfield was coaching the team.

I never said the issues were not there during the latter part of Sinfield tenure, but since his departure they are more pressing and it's the coach's job to fix that.

Yes we are only just into the first few games but all signs are pointing to the continuation of previous issues and problems, and not any visible change in tact.

I don't think he's a bad coach, I simply think he's been here a bit too long and now that coincides with a rebuilding phase that seems to be getting stretched out as long as possible for as cheap as possible.

My preference would be to sign a new coach,or at the very least a HB coach like Dunemann to work with sutty and Lilley ,for jjb to retire proudly and One of mags or burrow to be moved on for a new 7.

We need some new ideas and some new players to replace those hurtling towards 35+ with no heir apparent. If we don't Start looking now we will be back to bargain bin signings and hoping for a very lucky year just to make the 8.

printer is 100% spot on. I would add some of the quotes going around would also be relevant under TS and Bluey whilst Sinfield and JP were running the team.

So we hire a new coach....:how does that change it from being done as "cheap as possible".....A new coach can't force GH to splash the cash.