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all the best for the future to luke

poss not the thread to have inter club point scoring there's many a ground where 'bring on the dustbin' chant amongst others has been sung including hq.

as for feigning injuries that was the worst bit of alan tait's book for me that he did

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Quote: braytontiger "are you for real,jonny walker was just trying to put a hit on burgess and they clashed heads.no intent what so ever and you are quite right what goes around comes around and im sure over his career walker will be on the recieving end of a few tough tackles has do most players that play the game.

hope luke recovers in minimal time and is back playing in no time.'"


No compalints about the hit or the accidental clash of heads its a tough game and they are all big boys and as I have said karma will have its day.

What I do have a slight beef about is the mindset of some of the Cas players with 10 minutes to go. This was evident in the wardance afterwards whilst a fellow pro is badly injured on the floor. WELL OUT OF ORDER IN MY BOOK.

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Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.'"


Oh I believe they were bothered about something and it wasnt winning IMHO

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "Walker came off worse in the initial shoulder impact but the clash of heads did the damage. If it weren't for the head clash Walker would have looked daft.'"

thats how i saw it. Luke won the collision and his momentum was going forward, the young cas kid was on his ass falling backwards. Had the heads not clashed as they did, Burgess would have been in open space

It was poor technique and a lack of control and i think a good coach will talk to him about that. Not from a discipline point of view but if the kids throws around shots like that more often not the young lad will come off second best

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "Fair enough celebrating the hit if your 2 points down and are going to get a Final chance to win, but I didn't understand why they were that bothered considering the match was gone.'"


I suppose its a way of getting back at your opponents, and takes away part of the enjoyment of winning.

It wasn't a clever tackle technique and Walker was probably lucky not to get injured too. However it wasn't Illegal, and when the adrenaline is running along with frustration, there's always going to be some disregard for personal safety.

Anyway hope he gets back on the field soon.

And to the people who say it was out of order, THIS ISN'T TIDDLYWINKS, THIS IS RUGBY LEAGUE!!!

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potentially any tackle in rugby league can cause injury, we've all seen players struggling after fairly innocent tackles like the one on peacock last night
burgess was a case of 2 young players colliding and unluckily for luke he came off worst, if it had been a morley,mcdermott or peacock they might have learnt to lead with the arm and maybe lessen the chances of a head collision

one things for certain , serious or not the leeds lads will queue up to take the pi$$ out of him as soon as he returns to the ground such is the nature of the squad

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Quote: TheseAren'tPaintedOn "I suppose its a way of getting back at your opponents, and takes away part of the enjoyment of winning.

It wasn't a clever tackle technique and Walker was probably lucky not to get injured too. However it wasn't Illegal, and when the adrenaline is running along with frustration, there's always going to be some disregard for personal safety.

Anyway hope he gets back on the field soon.

And to the people who say it was out of order, THIS ISN'T TIDDLYWINKS, THIS IS RUGBY LEAGUE!!!'"


I take it reading is not your strong point so I will do my best to repeat the context of my concerns.

I didnt say the hit or the accidental contact was out of order and if you can read my post you will see I conceed its indeed a big boys game.

What was not on was the wardance of delight AFTERWARDS whilst a fellow pro is lying badly injured.

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Quote: DoubleAone "No compalints about the hit or the accidental clash of heads its a tough game and they are all big boys and as I have said karma will have its day.

What I do have a slight beef about is the mindset of some of the Cas players with 10 minutes to go. This was evident in the wardance afterwards whilst a fellow pro is badly injured on the floor. WELL OUT OF ORDER IN MY BOOK.'"


How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final

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Tbh he just didn't even look like he had control of the hit, his body seemed to relax just before the hit (Walker that is) which resulted in his head flying forwards. Completely accidental.

As for the celebrating afterwards, Leeds are one of the biggest sides for the jumping about and celebrating a big hit, how was the Cas lad to know how injured Burgess was? I think as soon as it became apparent the players stopped celebrating, and I don't see how you could have expected them to act differently. I doubt your team would, and thats not an insult, its just part of the game.

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Quote: casman2 "How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final'"


No-one is disparaging the reaction of Walker after the initial contact (or any of the Cas player either), most players would have reacted in exactly the same way.

Although it has been discussed to some length on this thread I don’t have an issue with the tackle itself although it’s execution from Walker could have been a little more controlled and Burgess’ positioning a little better.

The issue here is the reaction and continual chanting from a set of fans that have already proven this season that they have little or no regard for opposition players, decency or the law.

This is now what we have come to expect from the Cas ‘faithful’ and TBH should come as no surprise.

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Quote: casman2 "How often do players celebrate when they make a big hit?? Every single time, this time was no different

Remember a few years ago when Anderson put in a big hit on Danny Tickle and screamed at him while he was on the floor, its the same thing. Adrenaline takes over and last night Walker was the same, although he quickly realised it was serious after Burgess failed to move.

Hope Luke gets well soon, just a shame an accident has caused him to miss the CC final'"



Yes back slapping and high fives etc for a good try saving tackle or forcing an error is now part of the modern game but not jumping and celebrating when there was clearly a very huge problem with Burgess.

But to be fair I will watch the incident again in the cold light of day so to speak.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "thats how i saw it. Luke won the collision and his momentum was going forward, the young cas kid was on his ass falling backwards. Had the heads not clashed as they did, Burgess would have been in open space'"


Cas did some poor tackling yesterday, but even IF Burgess had won the collision and not been knocked out he was not in the open, Westerman and Sargent were about two feet away. IMO, had he not been knocked out his momentum would have been halted enough for those two to wrap him up. Job done as far as Walker was concerned and we will never know if LB lost the ball due to the impact of tackle or clash of heads.

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Quote: DoubleAone "Yes back slapping and high fives etc for a good try saving tackle or forcing an error is now part of the modern game but not jumping and celebrating when there was clearly a very huge problem with Burgess.

But to be fair I will watch the incident again in the cold light of day so to speak.'"



Players often do that and JW was no different. The example earlier with Vinnie Anderson on Tickle, Anderson is leant over Tickle shouting in his face while Tickle is struggling to move. What about Guttenbeil on Catic when Awen is practically sat on top of Catic and even slaps him as he shouts in his face. It happens lots and either you watch the game or are just a keyboard warrior. Our game is full of these hits and players celebrating them, so will people please stop making something out of nothing. Anyone who still believe this isn't the case, go spend half an hour on youtube.

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Quote: marshman "Players often do that and JW was no different. The example earlier with Vinnie Anderson on Tickle, Anderson is leant over Tickle shouting in his face while Tickle is struggling to move. What about Guttenbeil on Catic when Awen is practically sat on top of Catic and even slaps him as he shouts in his face. It happens lots and either you watch the game or are just a keyboard warrior. Our game is full of these hits and players celebrating them, so will people please stop making something out of nothing. Anyone who still believe this isn't the case, go spend half an hour on youtube.'"


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