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| Quote: FearTheVee "Anyone who thinks Graham was anything other than excellent on Friday is clueless. He did everything you expect of a prop and plenty more.'"
So you’d expect a prop to come of the bench eye’s popping out of his head, seething with rage then spend the next ten minutes trying to have a pop at Bailey but massively neglecting the rest of his duties?
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| Quote: LS16_Rhino "So you’d expect a prop to come of the bench eye’s popping out of his head, seething with rage then spend the next ten minutes trying to have a pop at Bailey but massively neglecting the rest of his duties?'"
He neglected nothing and Bailey was subbed a couple of minutes after Graham came on - indeed before Saints even got the ball back and before Leeds scored their try - so it is imposible for him to have spent "the next ten minutes trying to have a pop at Bailey but massively neglecting the rest of his duties".
What specifically did Graham neglect to do out of interest? He certainly managed to produce the match winning play.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "He neglected nothing and Bailey was subbed a couple of minutes after Graham came on - indeed before Saints even got the ball back and before Leeds scored their try - so it is imposible for him to have spent "the next ten minutes trying to have a pop at Bailey but massively neglecting the rest of his duties".
What specifically did Graham neglect to do out of interest? He certainly managed to produce the match winning play.'"
With your definition of "a couple of minutes" and my exaggeration of ten minutes we might meet somewhere in the middle.
Either way he came off the bench with the sole intention of flooring Bailey – in that period he was ineffective.
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| Quote: LS16_Rhino "With your definition of "a couple of minutes" and my exaggeration of ten minutes we might meet somewhere in the middle.
Either way he came off the bench with the sole intention of flooring Bailey – in that period he was ineffective.'"
We didn't have the ball and he didn't miss any tackles!! In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m. In what way was he ineffective? He didn't score an intercept try?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "We didn't have the ball and he didn't miss any tackles!! In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m. In what way was he ineffective? He didn't score an intercept try?
When a player’s sole objective and purpose is to isolate a single member of the opposition’s team then their effectiveness is massively diluted.
By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.
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| Quote: LS16_Rhino "When a player’s sole objective and purpose is to isolate a single member of the opposition’s team then their effectiveness is massively diluted.
By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.'"
I didn't say he did it single handedly, but I think it's fair to say his effort was very "effective".
Unlike Bailey, who crabbed across the field and got hammered, then got subbed, then came back on as the invisible centre whilst Graham was busy winning the game for Saints
I guess what you're saying is that for 2 or 3 minutes Graham was ineffective, despite Saints not having the ball in that period, except for when he was called upon to tackle effectively, which he did.
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| What About The Match Last Season Or Season Before When Kylie Leuluai Owned James Graham All Over The Park With Some Great Hits And Graham Went Hiding Pretty Much For The Rest Of The Game...
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Anyone who thinks Graham was anything other than excellent on Friday is clueless. He did everything you expect of a prop and plenty more.'"
I dont expect props to have to be warned on entering the field of play.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "
What specifically did Graham neglect to do out of interest? He certainly managed to produce the match winning play.'"
Anyone can play the link man.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m. '"
Does 3rd man in count?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I didn't say he did it single handedly
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Quote: FearTheVee "he drove Bailey back 10m'"
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| Quote: LS16_Rhino "By the way I don’t recall Graham single-handedly driving Bailey back 10 meters – must have missed that one.'"
Quote: LS16_Rhino "I didn't say he did it single handedly'"
Just to remind you.
Quote: LS16_Rhino "In fact, when he was called upon to make a tackle he drove Bailey back 10m.'"
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| Didn't Graham lose it with Bailey in the GF one year as well?
What a plank.
Still a good player when on his game but lets himself get distracted far too easily. Why other coaches don't play on it more is something of a mystery.
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| Quote: tvoc "Didn't Graham lose it with Bailey in the GF one year as well?
What a plank.
Still a good player when on his game but lets himself get distracted far too easily. Why other coaches don't play on it more is something of a mystery.'"
leeds have had mauire's number for a few seasons now!! i think the same could happen with graham, he looked totally cream crackered at the end of the game as he spent his last spell running around like a mad man. if leeds can get into him early doors his spells could have a lot less impact
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