On the ambition front, it was weird to be bigging up a 15k crowd for a heavily marketed match (with 2 other matches at the stadium) when we used to average 16k.

I saw the release mid week about the Wigan match, laughable that they thought it would be relevant for the top 6 from a Leeds point of view.

I await further hollow press releases as we move towards the season ticket renewal/general sale windows.

I personally thought the 15 k crowd was excellent. I was also comparing it with other club’s attendance figures. My praise was based on the judgment that due to the dire state of super league it demonstrated that with a decent team we could command the biggest crowds. My other reason for my post was to highlight the attraction for summer Sunday afternoon games.

How is the drive for the play offs going?

Depends on which years play offs you refer to!!

"But all the players here now are united to finish the season strongly and we face five crucial games as we look to secure a play off spot, starting at Huddersfield Giants on Sunday."

This one!!

I'm sure some people will find everything positive in their nice fuzzy little world

I think the only one left who is 'glass nearly full' is leedsbarmyarmy who thinks we're all daft. Christophers positivity has had its limits stretched I think.

I think you’ve got me all wrong to be honest. Been 8th in the table and not performing each week isn’t acceptable. We should be up near the top each year as we are one of the biggest clubs in super league.

I just don’t agree when people say, for example, the coach is sh it, all the players are sh it, etc. it’s just not as simple as that.

I also don’t agree when people are bagging the club on recruitment for next year, when it’s still August and we have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. I’ll save my criticism for the club when we see the 2024 squad taking shape towards the back end of the year.

But I’m sure I’ll still be labelled a cheer leader as I’m not going with the forum narrative of criticising the club for very thing they do.

But you’ve got it right on the glass half full thing, that’s how I live my life. Nothing wrong with been a positive person and I don’t allow a sport to dictate my mood, from reading these threads, a lot of people should try it sometimes.

Im not positive about this year, it’s done. Ill still enjoy going to the games because I enjoy going to watch the games.

I’ll reserve judgement on next year until I see the squad finalised.

Agreed, especially your last paragraph.

All very fair comments and you are right re the last paragraph. I think peoples apprehensions re recruitment can be understood though owing primarily to yet another poor season, the significant holes to fill, current indications not being great yet and previous disappointing recruitment. I'm working on being more positive, in all aspects not just rugby, which I think I hold too much as an escape then get frustrated at well, getting more frustrated.

Yeah I understand some of the concerns but some seem to think we’re not making anymore signings and have written off next year already, which is baffling at this stage of the season.

Good to hear mate, it’s good to have many “escapes” so when one isn’t giving you the required happiness you can move to another. Rugby league isn’t as big in my life as it used to be, maybe that’s why it doesn’t get me as worked up as it does to others.

I think that given the time of the year, many fans are (perhaps rightly) anxious that the available pool of quality players may be too small given the number of important gaps in our squad and the ambitions of our club.

At the very least, other SL clubs have been quicker to make announcements than Leeds. The comments by Smith in the YEP about accommodating Miller and Myler suggest we are still actively looking for half-backs rather than having player(s) 'signed and sealed'. There's still time for the sleeve to deliver, and we're not quite in the bargain bin territory of December, but it does look like the club are taking a major risk by having so many critical positions unfilled at this late stage. I hope I am wrong, and that there are more Miller-esque signings to be revealed in the coming weeks.

Myler will be 34 years of age just after the start of the 2024 season. If the club has any meaningful ambitions he shouldn’t be in the squad.