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| It's all about context
If these words are used in anger - don't expect any sympathy
Like the Luis Suarez case - his racist words were used in anger - not acceptable.
Hardakers words were clearly used in anger - not acceptable
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| Even though I said I didn't give a monkeys I agree with the previous poster.
A guy who was heterosexual and had lost his temper would probably have shouted F'ing Barsteward.
Think he has had problems in the changing room.
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| Quote: jools "This heat of the moment excuse makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall! It's Pathetic!
In the heat of the moment you don't just choose a random word you have never used before do you? You choose a word that's part of your vocabulary- the point is getting people to remove words such as this out of their vocabulary so they don't use it in the heat of the moment.'"
Apparently that well-known Gay-basher Jonah Hill wouldn't agree with you!
[iThe “22 Jump Street” actor was trailed by photographers this weekend in Los Angeles as he was strolling with a friend.
Clad in printed shorts, a polo T-shirt and baseball cap, Hill succeeded in ignoring the shutterbugs. However one particularly pesky photographer continued to hound the 30-year-old actor teasing him by say, “I like the shorts though, bro. They are pretty sexy.”
The photographer continued to follow him down a side street before finally giving up and saying, “Have a good day.”
Hill answered back snapping, “ Suck my d..k, you f….t”
Hill was a guest on The Howard Stern Show this morning and sounded genuinely contrite and upset over the controversy explaining that the photographer had been following him all day saying "really hurtful things about my family."
He admitted that he snapped. "I played into exactly what he wanted a nd lost my cool and in that moment I said a disgusting word that does not at all reflect how I feel about any group of people."
"I grew up with gay family members," Hill continued. "I'm happy to be the poster boy for thinking about what you say."
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PS I was witness to homophobic chants from Hull FC fans on the West Terrace towards Tom Briscoe so them getting their panties in a bunch is particularly ironic.
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| Well I think there are a lot of knob jockeys posting on here. Just saying like, and I'm quite chilled about it.
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| Quote: heisenberg "Jeez. Who cares. Watch the news there's bigger problems out there. Things are said in the heat of the moment. Clearly Zak isn't a homophobe, he has 2 earrings FFS!
Fit young guy, hot body, tattoos, earrings, trendy haircut, fashionable clothes, takes pride in his appearance and now alleged to have used a homophobic slur?
What's the American for wardrobe?
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| I have a couple of gay friends, so I asked one of them if he would be really offended if someone called him a faggot - he responded by singing the Gloria Gaynor classic 'I am what I am' (true story).
Has anyone really gone out and asked the gay community if they find the word 'faggot' offensive? Because all the gays I know really couldn't give fekk.
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| Quote: Fat Boy "I have a couple of gay friends.'"
Of course you do.
Guffaw.
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| I'm not homophobic. I like Elton John and everything.
Manly regards
Vladimir Putin
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| If this ever goes to court, those videos Zak made with Josh Charnley would be the first item for the defence.
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| Somewhere there will be an episode of Southpark that deals with this scenario.
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| When pressure and or frustration get the better of a person, they will on occasion lash out verbally (or physically). If the response to the situation is verbal, it quite often takes the form of a word or words designed to shock or distress the intended recipient. It is also common to shout out in a similar manner at ones self, when frustrated. Is this acceptable? IMO it is not. Is it a hanging offence? Again IMO it is not. I do however think that we need to be wary as a society of jumping to take offence at every outburst made in a pressurised situation by a daft individual who failed to check an overspill of emotions. Motive and context need to be factored into the equation. IF Zak did make unacceptable comments, I trust that the RFL will take appropriate action.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Well it's not such a big secret that I'm bisexual and spend a lot of time with transpeople, so although I personally wouldn't be bothered if anyone called me a faggot, I do know a lot of people who would be upset. If such insults were thrown in my direction (as has happened on occasion in the past), I have a couple of options open to me
Cheers Codhead. I applaud, and respect your straightforward and honest reply, which may just give all those posters who are working themselves up into a self rightous froth, something to ponder on.
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| Quote: Fat Boy "I have a couple of gay friends, so I asked one of them if he would be really offended if someone called him a faggot - he responded by singing the Gloria Gaynor classic 'I am what I am' (true story).
Has anyone really gone out and asked the gay community if they find the word 'faggot' offensive? Because all the gays I know really couldn't give fekk.'"
I should also like to admitting I collected Golli badges as a kid......
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| and a lot of those frothing at the mouth are the same ones chanting the refs a cheating c*nt from the terraces
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| Quote: ThePrinter "I didn't say he should use it.'"
But you are trying to mitigate his use of it in the same way people justified using those words.
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