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I agree but he's a kid. I rate him highly but he needs judging in 18 months not now

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Quote: ThePrinter "
Damn I really thought they'd come out and admit it and get themselves in trouble, no really.

You've even admitted yourself he was working out in Cronulla's gym. Do you really think he was doing his own separate thing or working to a fitness programme setup by their coaching staff? Last time I checked gym/fitness work was just as much part of training so don't really know why you're trying to argue this point.'"


Come on - all the evidence is that he wasn't training with them (yes he was allowed to use their gym facilities, but not with the team) - you've got your conspiracy that the Sharks tapped him up, had him training with them and paid the fee, with no evidence at all to back it up.

And for what it's worth, whilst Maloney is a great character (and top top player too), he seemed genuine in the interview that it was strange playing with a 9 who they'd hardly trained with.

Anyhow, as I said before - Parcell is a great replacement and on paper, GH got his win.... Onwards and upwards.

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Quote: Superted "Come on - all the evidence is that he wasn't training with them (yes he was allowed to use their gym facilities, but not with the team) - you've got your conspiracy that the Sharks tapped him up, had him training with them and paid the fee, with no evidence at all to back it up.'"


There's no evidence he wasn't training with them apart from you desperately pleading that Cronulla are whiter than white (are you a Cronulla fan by any chance?). If you want to be so naive then so be it:

If Segeyaro paid the fee himself then why hadn't it been announced?

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Quote: ThePrinter "
There's no evidence he wasn't training with them apart from you desperately pleading that Cronulla are whiter than white (are you a Cronulla fan by any chance?). If you want to be so naive then so be it

So believing what all the players, Sharks officials, NRL and Australian press have said is naive (despite the Sharks being clear on their position right from the outset, even before Segeyaro pulled the 'homesick' card).

Yet you presumably believe the Sharks paid a fee for him - despite none of the official announcements cofirmimg that, instead it all being Leeds have agreed an 'undisclosed fee' to release Segeyaro.... Wonder who wanted that fee to be 'undisclosed' - and you call me naive.... I wonder if we'll see received transfer fees on Leeds accounting books for this year when they're released, and if so, I wonder if it will show where it came from...

I said weeks ago that I was sure he wasn't training with the squad - that was based on information from a personal contact who previously worked at the Sharks and is still involved in around the club through Northies. It's well known JS is matey with a fair few of the players and is living with Wade Graham, so he's been in and around the place - but he'd not been doing any team training sessions. The Sharks couldn't risk it, the NRL would come down on them, and with recent history, the club would not take that risk.

Anyway, time to move on....

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Quote: Superted "So believing what all the players, Sharks officials, NRL and Australian press have said is naive (despite the Sharks being clear on their position right from the outset, even before Segeyaro pulled the 'homesick' card).

Yet you presumably believe the Sharks paid a fee for him - despite none of the official announcements cofirmimg that, instead it all being Leeds have agreed an 'undisclosed fee' to release Segeyaro.... Wonder who wanted that fee to be 'undisclosed' - and you call me naive.... I wonder if we'll see received transfer fees on Leeds accounting books for this year when they're released, and if so, I wonder if it will show where it came from...

I said weeks ago that I was sure he wasn't training with the squad - that was based on information from a personal contact who previously worked at the Sharks and is still involved in around the club through Northies. It's well known JS is matey with a fair few of the players and is living with Wade Graham, so he's been in and around the place - but he'd not been doing any team training sessions. The Sharks couldn't risk it, the NRL would come down on them, and with recent history, the club would not take that risk.

Anyway, time to move on....'"


Even most Cronulla fans think it's laughable that Segeyaro paid for his release. Most believe the rumour that Cronulla came to an agreement with the NRL so that it wouldn't count on the cap....and these are the ones you think are whiter than white.

Your whole proof is based on them not admitting it, which they were never going to do so is ridiculous to say is proof on your part.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Even most Cronulla fans think it's laughable that Segeyaro paid for his release. Most believe the rumour that Cronulla came to an agreement with the NRL so that it wouldn't count on the cap....and these are the ones you think are whiter than white.

Your whole proof is based on them not admitting it, which they were never going to do so is ridiculous to say is proof on your part.'"


I've not said I have 'proof'... but there are plenty of quotes from players and officials, and official press releases that back up what I believe - there is nothing but pure speculation on your part..

So - official club communications, player statements and NRL journalist articles or message board rumours and speculation.... I know which I'm more inclined to believe, if that makes me naive in your eyes, so be it.

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Quote: Superted "I've not said I have 'proof'... but there are plenty of quotes from players and officials, and official press releases that back up what I believe - there is nothing but pure speculation on your part..

So - official club communications, player statements and NRL journalist articles or message board rumours and speculation.... I know which I'm more inclined to believe, if that makes me naive in your eyes, so be it.'"


I'm shock Cronulla didn't post-transfer admit to any wrong doing.......no really.

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One Leeds refused to give up Segeyaro's registration the Sharks wouldn't have risked him in formal training sessions. But the fitness staff and other coaches will have been telling him what they want him to work on.

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Seriously, who cares now? With a long season ahead, and a huge stadium project to sort out, Segeyaro is an unnecessary distraction.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Seriously, who cares now? With a long season ahead, and a huge stadium project to sort out, Segeyaro is an unnecessary distraction.'"


Dunno, it seemed to be all done and dusted and moved on from but it seems Superted seems to have quite the boner on for Cronulla and the NRL and their integrity.

Does anybody really believe Segeyaro, at still an early-ish stage of his career and apparently not earning for the last 4 months could afford a significant 5 (possibly 6) figure fee?

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "One Leeds refused to give up Segeyaro's registration the Sharks wouldn't have risked him in formal training sessions. But the fitness staff and other coaches will have been telling him what they want him to work on.'"


I agree they wouldn't have risked him in 'formal' sessions, but he'll have still be getting well prepped for the season. His immediate inclusion in the matchday 17 is an obvious giveaway.

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he will have been training with Cronulla, probably not in team runs which is more likely to what Maloney was alluding to, but fitness etc.. then yes, i'm personally pretty sure on that. but, as like the fee paid to Leeds, we will never get a factual response on the matter, no point arguing it anymore. Lets move on.

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Nobody on here knows either way - pointless d1ck measuring

If the accounts are a fair representation of what has happened the transfer fee will be shown as other income and should e visible - this is Leeds CA&F so its unlikely and it will be July 2018 before the accounts will be out by then this will long forgotten.

How many training sessions did Parcell have before he trotted out with the team - same can be said of Ali aSegyaro himself when Leeds signed them - that is what happens with new signings they don't wait weeks until they get used to the patterns they throw them straight in.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Seriously, who cares now? With a long season ahead, and a huge stadium project to sort out, Segeyaro is an unnecessary distraction.'"


I think that it's only on here & only for a few posters that this saga has been a distraction once we replaced him with Parcell.

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I'll always remember the fact he dragged us through the playoffs kicking and screaming last year.

Exactly the calibre of player we needed, just a shame he decided to do what he did (though Eastwood was worse IMO) but I'll be thankful for what he did when we needed it the most.

I think we'll leave this thread here, its had a good run.

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