There was no evidence of a knock on in either incident (i assume you mean hall 1st half, peacock 2nd). If hall did touch it, which isn't clear, at worst it went backwards because the wigan player kicked it out of his hands. With the peacock incident there was no seperation between his hands and the ball whilst it was on the floor, so why would it be a knock on?

I'm not sure what the 3 harsh calls were?

Apart from that, I agree with your point about the allaged emphatic nature of the victory. For periods in that game wigan were on top. But that just highlights the quality of leeds in defence and attack that they turn out a comfortable win on the scoreboard despite that.

I suspect they are including a tackler getting bumped off but if the attempt stops the ball carrier progressing and also allows the follow up defenders to halt the attack then thats harsh IMHO but I guess that allows some to grind out their negative / jaundiced views.

It's Phil Clarke, hi Phil !!

The one for Zak Hardaker try Ryan Hall knocked on before gelling and the Peacock one on any other day is given a knock on but didn't see any more. Also i thought Leeds got a few calls last night, but don't think it would have changed the result anyway. Who would Jones Buchanan replace at the moment?

Take Peacock, Luelaui and Ablett out of the team and it might even it up on the injury front but its just part and parcel of the game.

Problem we had before during this season is playing too cautious against the top teams in attack. We've gotten the balance better in these last two games in terms of doing the basics & hard stuff yet coming up with the kind of play to score past the better sides.

We could've scored more points in both games but fortunately one of this teams strengths for a few years now is not panicking if the scoreboard isn't reflective of the game. That's to do with the amount of leaders we have in our team and something that is quite telling with how the season is panning out so far.....

Wigan - Don't look the same without O'Loughlin
Saints - Got the quality but don't have many leaders
Wire - Lost most of theirs last year and don't have many left
Hudds - Brough is too busy spitting his dummy out this year.

Forgive my juvenile use of the smilies but its just so nice to read the occassional great insight on a great game.

i agree with every word too

It was clear watching the warm up Clarkson was going to play 9, surely Wigan had somebody watching the warm up?

but of course the game stats prove we are just plain wrong.

Lies, damn lies and statistics?

Thought it was an excellent team performance from all 17 players last night.
As one of Hall's biggest critics I have to say I thought he was superb once again.
Really pleased he has listened to my advice by running straight instead of sideways.
Seriously a great performance bettered only by Hardaker.
Enjoyed JP first winding up Bateman then running straight at him putting his hand right in his face.

How old are you? 10 or something.

Good Morning Petal.

Maybe you could answer a simple question - if the stats are in reality worthless why do all the clubs invest so much money in collecting them and seemingly hold much store in what they reveal?

If you think we are obsessed take a look at the NRL - the pinnacle of the world game - they real go to town on the detail!!

Now I know you believe you can gauge every impact from your cosy place in the stands, if you can then the professionals should be able to - if that is the case why bother with the stats?

Could I suggest that they use of combination of the two, gut instinct backed up by the facts?

obviously it's the combination of reviewing the footage and looking at the stats. I also imagine that having a professional level of insight helps