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mmmmmmm not sure that anyone in the game deserves that sort of language... except maybe one current player,,,there is alays an exception to the rule and has I wouldnt use it to his face...then I wouldnt use it... well not out loud anyway.

The guy is paid to make those choices, its his job and on balance its difficult to argue with his overall achievements to date.

You might not agree but thats no excuse for abusing him or his choices.

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Quote: DoubleAone "mmmmmmm not sure that anyone in the game deserves that sort of language... except maybe one current player,,,there is alays an exception to the rule and has I wouldnt use it to his face...then I wouldnt use it... well not out loud anyway.

The guy is paid to make those choices, its his job and on balance its difficult to argue with his overall achievements to date.

You might not agree but thats no excuse for abusing him or his choices.'"



Let's be honest here. Are you seriously telling me you have never had to ring up or write to some organisation to complain on something, got heated, and being derogatory about it? I mean come on.

I am sure that person will also have just being doing their job also.

Let's not get all hypocritical.

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Quote: Gotcha "Let's be honest here. Are you seriously telling me you have never had to ring up or write to some organisation to complain on something, got heated, and being derogatory about it? I mean come on.

I am sure that person will also have just being doing their job also.

Let's not get all hypocritical.'"


I've managed never to use personal insults in my business dealings, or in my complaints. I may have been derogatory about their perfomrnace in their job.

I may think a lot of things, but they don't need saying.

The exact term you used is also offensive. I'm sure you could think of an insult, if you need to insult him, that was less offensive to a large group of people based on their lifestyle choice. Given what "knobjockey" means, there isn't really another context for you to use it in. It refers to penetrative anal sex, and does so in a perjorative way. I submit to you that it was therefore, not a good choice of word for a public forum.

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At least this wasn't a wasted effort though.

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... -1-4815174
At least this wasn't a wasted effort though.

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Quote: El Diablo "I've managed never to use personal insults in my business dealings, or in my complaints. I may have been derogatory about their perfomrnace in their job.

I may think a lot of things, but they don't need saying. '"


How very nice of you. I bet you have roses all over the garden too, and drink tea from china cups with your cake.

I am pleased that you have not seen the need to insult anyone. A refreshing change.

Quote: El Diablo "The exact term you used is also offensive. I'm sure you could think of an insult, if you need to insult him, that was less offensive to a large group of people based on their lifestyle choice. Given what "knobjockey" means, there isn't really another context for you to use it in. It refers to penetrative anal sex, and does so in a perjorative way. I submit to you that it was therefore, not a good choice of word for a public forum.'"


Without wanting to get too pedantic, the definition you refer to is for Knob Jockey. The word I used again was knobjockey. It's just a little change, but still as someone who has an history for pedantry I thought it would be appreciated a little more. icon_wink.gif

Drop the jockey off by the way, and then you do have him to a tee. But I just thought the riding on the back of others was quite apt for this particular fella.

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Quote: Gotcha "Let's be honest here. Are you seriously telling me you have never had to ring up or write to some organisation to complain on something, got heated, and being derogatory about it? I mean come on.

I am sure that person will also have just being doing their job also.

Let's not get all hypocritical.'"


I would refute the hypocrisy claim. Yes of course I get heated on some of lifes issues

but as far has writing something down I now have a 10 minute rule which is observed before sending, posting, emailing or hitting the return key icon_biggrin.gif

I will confess in my early use of the internet and forums I did used to get heated but I soon learnt it wasnt productive and a more balanced and inciteful use of the written form is more productive.

Beside using such abuse on a forum looks cheap and nasty and you soon lose the thread of an arguement IMHO.

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Quote: DoubleAone "I would refute the hypocrisy claim. Yes of course I get heated on some of lifes issues'"


How do you refute something, then admit you did do it? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "But I just thought the riding on the back of others was quite apt for this particular fella.'"


ah now thats an opinion which you are perfectly entitled to and to express. icon_biggrin.gif

just as I am that the use of such personal abuse isnt warranted. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "How do you refute something, then admit you did do it?
I cant help getting heated I am only human but I have learnt that letting it overspill into verbal or written abuse is counter productive.

It was in the past and I have evolved through some of lifes leassons. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "How do you refute something, then admit you did do it?
Where have I said I prefer to lie...what I said was I prefer not to use verbal or written abuse when dealing with these issues....but you knew that already didnt you. icon_mrgreen.gif

I will readily admit I am not a huge fan Of McD. I prefer to see players playing in their positions and I dont think the use of Burrow at hooker is a great choice for the team.

I would tell him so to his face but I dont see the need to use personal abusive terms in doing so. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "Where have I said I prefer to lie...what I said was I prefer not to use verbal or written abuse when dealing with these issues....but you knew that already didnt you.

I did know that.

I just prefer to be straight, again nothing against homosexuality. So I stick to the open statement, nothing hidden.

By the way, and this is for benefit of El diablo. Had I changed the wording to knobendjockey, would that have sufficed?

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Quote: El Diablo "... to a large group of people based on their lifestyle choice. '"


Sorry... going to have to stop you there. Homosexuality is not a 'lifestyle choice' - it is something you either are or aren't, there is no choice in the matter.

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Quote: Gotcha " How very nice of you. I bet you have roses all over the garden too, and drink tea from china cups with your cake.

I am pleased that you have not seen the need to insult anyone. A refreshing change.'"


In professional settings. I may have meandered into the odd insult in my personal life...
Not sure the removal of the space actually changes the meaning in any way. I don't think pedantry is for you.

Dropping the jockey part would make a big difference however. It's still insulting, but you'll probably find it less offensive to social groups.

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Quote: Fat Boy "Sorry... going to have to stop you there. Homosexuality is not a 'lifestyle choice' - it is something you either are or aren't, there is no choice in the matter.'"



Sorry.... going to have to stop you there. This thread is about the Hull KR game on Sunday. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Fat Boy "Sorry... going to have to stop you there. Homosexuality is not a 'lifestyle choice' - it is something you either are or aren't, there is no choice in the matter.'"


Your sexuality is (largely, there is still debate to be had here, scientifically and sociologically) pre-determined. Your actual sexual practices, whatever your sexuality, are a lifestyle choice.

Lots of people choose not to have sex at all. Good luck to 'em. It's not my idea of a lifestyle, but that's the thing with choices.

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